This flu is dragging on and on in my house too although Jerry is more engaged now so I see there is hope since he came down with it first. Our tree of knowledge often rules the day. I agree with all you say, Neil. I've kept following gorilla journalists like Tim Pool more and more, as they give a less biased snapshot of happenings. the snapshots, however, do not seem to keep the dragons at bay.
I have a couple of artists in mind to invite when we settle on a platform, or decide to stay put, whichever happens. One from the US midwest and the other from Uruguay. I know a couple of other folks who may or may not take up the invite but are really interesting. On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 3:12:03 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > I have to say this 'flu or whatever has made me feel my mind was under > occupation. 'Blind Eagle' was a name we gave to illegally distilled > whiskey back in the day Allan. It made you feel you were flying because it > had made you blind. > > Molly mentioned fun in a recent email and if we are going to establish a > niche somewhere I'm game. This said, I've been thinking about "strategic > conversations", mostly because I can't find them anywhere - sure there are > blogs I can contribute to - but the strategic conversations don't even > exist in the university circuit. Our media is currently full of the story > that the EU is just letting refugees drown in the Mediterranean - yet no > mention of the US - Cuba situation years back. There is nothing about our > role in creating the refugees and that they way we do economics has no > answers. Basically the media tells us less than we know in its news > broadcasts in coverage that is clearly part of not solving problems. Some > residual part of me wants something better - but I also want something that > is not miserable and protection from the trolls - including those trolls > who seek to prevent real discussion through making everything kitsch (like > the media). > > The notion we can change anything fascinates me, though I sense we need > more fun to do this. One can dream in the Amazon that one is needed to > keep the sky up. Genuine and phony shamans are as difficult to separate as > morons and risk takers. One needs the perspective of a laugh. > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 1:03:58 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> From what I have seen there are far to many posers. Many writing books >> and still have no real idea of what is happening. >> I know a bit but nothing compared to my native american friends. Often >> times they see what I can not one of them jokingly called me a blind >> eagle.. >> I was put into the position i desperately needed to use what i knew to >> help keep my ex alive and get her through serious medical conditions. . >> Mostly helping her deal with pain and avoid some of the effects of major >> brain surgery. The surgeon and I talked for hours and liked the >> results.. we became good friends. We were able to avoid excessive use of >> drugs. Which was good for her recovery. . It had many strange effects. . >> One of them is she hated me for keeping her alive.. >> I don't mind helping someone but I have no desire to control anyone.. >> fortunately people do not pay attention because there is a lot of natural >> spiritual energy involved and they never really learn to guide it.. good >> thing actually because there are places it is better not to tread. For me >> it was fascinating journey it verified what I was told. >> To journey with a true shaman can be an fantastic experience. But only >> if they want to take you. I was fortunate because i did voluntary work in >> their close proximity and we liked each other.. they bailed me out with the >> bishop when I stepped out of his guidelines. >> They where a group if characters what surprised me when around me there >> was an amazing was the inter tribal cooperation .. because thety told me >> how they did the samething. And of course they were all right.. but it was >> fascinating. . Even for them i think.. sometimes they knew each other from >> different planes. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Molly <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >> >> There is no fear or danger in the shaman's journey, although the people >> that they help or "journey with" may be filled with fear, and so feel >> danger. Ultimately, during a journey into the soul, you can only be afraid >> of yourself. Although, like a bad acid trip, unstable personalities can >> unravel. Poser shamans might take advantage of others to claim "power" over >> them, but they aren't doing the authentic work of the shaman which is >> providing guidance for an inward journey and nothing more. >> >> On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 8:02:47 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> I meant to respond to this earlier. Headaches stole the day! I've been >>> reading work by a Yanomami shaman: >>> But the white people are other than us…. Their thought remains >>> constantly attached >>> to their merchandise. They make it relentlessly and constantly desire >>> new goods. But >>> they are probably not as wise as they think they are. I fear that this >>> euphoria of >>> merchandise will have no end and that they will entangle themselves with >>> it to the >>> point of chaos. They are already constantly killing each other for money >>> in their >>> cities and fighting other people for minerals and oil they take from the >>> ground. But >>> they do not seem concerned that they are making us all perish with the >>> epidemic >>> fumes that escape from all these things. They do not think that they are >>> spoiling the >>> earth and the sky and that they will never be able to recreate new ones >>> (p.281). >>> >>> The Falling Sky: Words of a Yanomami Shaman >>> Kopenawa, Davi, and Bruce Albert. >>> Cambridge, MA: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. 2013. >>> >>> There's a free review here if anyone is interested - >>> http://digitalcommons.trinity.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1193&context=tipiti >>> >>> “There is only one sky and we must >>> take care of it, for if it becomes sick, everything will come to an end” >>> (p. 410). >>> “I often listen to the words of my spirits who angrily ask themselves: >>> Why are the white people so hostile to us? >>> Why do they want us to die? What do they have against us who do not >>> mistreat them? Is it >>> simply because we are other people, inhabitants of the forest?” (p. 408). >>> >>> Some guy born in the rain forest varies in semantics yet knows much the >>> same as us. I'm not keen on the supernatural as I tend to think freedom is >>> being free of arbitrary power decisions - so listening to one's soul is >>> cute a metaphor, but also very dangerous for me - and falling out over >>> words that are so ambiguous in the first place. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:26:51 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> No doubt we confuse our terms and semantic levels of meaning. I don't >>>> think any of that changes the mechanisms of thought, feeling and physical >>>> function in our lives. It only changes our view of our lives, that >>>> includes >>>> our beliefs, concepts, philosophies, systems including health, political >>>> and economic. Propaganda is nourished in the confusion. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:09:59 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Intellectual traditions tend to assume human powers in reason exist to >>>>> restrain our baser instincts. This is largely an assumption about the >>>>> classical soul, copied into Xtianity and Islam. We all have animalistic >>>>> drives and passions, and Reason constrains these individually and as a >>>>> polis (polis is the root of both polite and police). This Reason is a >>>>> moral >>>>> force. Lingering in this is a notion that our powers of creativity must >>>>> be >>>>> demonic. Hume, perhaps infamously, had it that 'reason is and ought only >>>>> to be the slave of the passions'. Reason cannot tell us what we should >>>>> want, only how to get it. I am by no means sure of this argument, which >>>>> I >>>>> think conflates reason and deduction-induction-abduction. I am convinced >>>>> we have bureaucratised reason as a way of concealing passion and spirit. >>>>> >>>>> Our conception of rationality is incoherent, hardly a good start for >>>>> any rational claims. Sometimes rationality is a means, sometimes it's an >>>>> end; othertimes it has nothing to do with morality ('value-free') and >>>>> then >>>>> it is the essence of what is right and good. Princeton, at one time, ran >>>>> a >>>>> course in "value free ethics", particularly stupid given that science >>>>> knows >>>>> no such thing as pure thought and knows any human without emotion would >>>>> be >>>>> incapable of thought. >>>>> >>>>> A long way back in time, we find Molly's spiritual and mystical >>>>> techniques for achieving union with the divine as rationality. Our >>>>> fellow >>>>> travellers would be Greeks living in Italy - the Pythagoreans. In out >>>>> time >>>>> we have come to identify the soul, not with Reason but with everything >>>>> that >>>>> makes us unique, idiosyncratic or imaginative as pathetic romanticists in >>>>> love with cosmological bureaucracy. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 2:04:09 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Clarity is a strange business. The language of being clear, >>>>>> resembling being bleached or de-loused in Scientology, dominates much of >>>>>> social research in needing to be pre-suppositionless, not to contaminate >>>>>> the research situation and hundreds of other terms such as 'hermeneutics >>>>>> guarantees truth'. This is all to be done by 'objects' that carry more >>>>>> other organisms around with them than cells with their own DNA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Screws change directions on boats. This may be what saves the boat >>>>>> from ending-up on the rocks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay no soul just the eternal mind. . >>>>>>> Sorry I screwed things up for you >>>>>>> Neil what was this beginning of clarity? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 2:08 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not suggesting any of us are Scientologists in any direct sense. >>>>>>> Though when we talk of rationality, clarity and other impossible >>>>>>> ideal-types forgetting they are ideals, we share something with such >>>>>>> lunacy. Of course, it isn't long before Allan screws up any chance of >>>>>>> clarity, saving ourselves from ourselves with his up-the-sleeve soul >>>>>>> forever-undefined-curing-all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I rather liked the idea that whatever we did was accessible to other >>>>>>> people, whatever 'condition' they were in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:12:41 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suppose that's where the "father, forgive them for they know not >>>>>>>> what they do" advise comes in Neil. Even with people motivated by >>>>>>>> criminal >>>>>>>> intent, they don't really understand the magnificence of the life >>>>>>>> they've >>>>>>>> been given and how they squander it. I grew weary of letting the ills >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> humanity upset me log ago and have mostly let go of it, although >>>>>>>> occasionally fall back into dismay over it. That dismay interferes >>>>>>>> with my >>>>>>>> reverent feelings for life's wonders, so, eventually, I can again see >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> wisdom in letting go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And even though, when in the throes of a virus, it is hard to >>>>>>>> remember the wonder, I do manage to find it every day. Even in a post >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> says "human society has little in it I would choose," because it >>>>>>>> allows me >>>>>>>> a kindred spirit. There is more to life than what human society holds >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> although at times it is difficult to see deeper or beyond, once done, >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> also seems so simple to do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:30:16 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Time is still a question.. but i do see an interconnection.. and >>>>>>>>> also Molly's friends.. RP sent me an email saying he wants back in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have friends who were involved with scientology. . They do a >>>>>>>>> lot of brain washing. And bad creating lots of problems .. from what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> movie was saying is time is a perspective .. it seems to be a series >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> markers of the past ~ present . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The present moment is elusive as as as soon as you read this it >>>>>>>>> is already past.. as for the soul how does time interconnect with >>>>>>>>> economics? That is your speciality. . I always thought that when you >>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>> at from different perspectives (booooo!) it helps in expanding and >>>>>>>>> enlighting the concepts escaping from the lectures. . >>>>>>>>> The effect if time on present day economic practice.. perfect for >>>>>>>>> perspective time snapshots.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> lol. Where is the new camp ground? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 4:06 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Allan's brief mention of time, before scuttling back into his >>>>>>>>> soul-shell, might have something in it. There is only so much time >>>>>>>>> one can >>>>>>>>> lend to various ventures. I have developed an interest in the more >>>>>>>>> honest >>>>>>>>> creatures of this earth and find it easy to put time in there. I >>>>>>>>> have been >>>>>>>>> led (I hope led) to a view that human society is severely disabled >>>>>>>>> and has >>>>>>>>> little in it I would choose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scientology" is both a criminal organisation (an interesting in >>>>>>>>> that we struggle to treat it as such) and a glaring example of wider, >>>>>>>>> crude >>>>>>>>> religious practices everywhere. I fancy what most people have >>>>>>>>> assumed to >>>>>>>>> be rationality over the years is, in fact, something similarly crude >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> more of medieval time than anything modern. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We should upsticks Molly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:13:45 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scientology is one of those deadly Kool Aid cults with an >>>>>>>>>> enormous amount of money behind the effort. It took a small bit of >>>>>>>>>> Hermetic >>>>>>>>>> philosophy, as old as written history, added methods of control and >>>>>>>>>> brainwashing, threw in shunning and voila, you have something worth >>>>>>>>>> grabbing your children and your assets and running at least a >>>>>>>>>> thousand >>>>>>>>>> miles to get away from (Katie Holmes. >>>>>>>>>> Having its roots in Hermetic philosophy legitimizes it to its >>>>>>>>>> constituents because these same concepts have been echoed throughout >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> ages. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not sure where you stand on the concept of soul, Neil. My biggest >>>>>>>>>> worry for this group is that it is wobbling on a failing platform >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> leaves it open to wackos and trolls. this makes it hard for a small >>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>> dialogue to survive. Maybe it is too boring without a bundle of >>>>>>>>>> alters of >>>>>>>>>> one deeply disturbed person constantly arguing with themselves. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's not really surprising time in this group has been so >>>>>>>>>>> medieval. Rationality has been conflated with morality, thinking >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> spirituality (very Descartes) and legitimation with the >>>>>>>>>>> supernatural. Some >>>>>>>>>>> of the action hasn't been that distanced from Scientology. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:29:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Love always creats a special bond between souls.. you an I both >>>>>>>>>>>> know souls are eternal she is doing what she needs. All I can say >>>>>>>>>>>> is for >>>>>>>>>>>> her to follow her soul.. the soul can find the path if given a >>>>>>>>>>>> chance. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 4:54 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a dear friend whose husband languishes in the hospital >>>>>>>>>>>> right now in his last days on earth. She holds his hand and >>>>>>>>>>>> wonders, as we >>>>>>>>>>>> all do during times like these, about the "time" we are given in >>>>>>>>>>>> this life >>>>>>>>>>>> with those we love. Sometimes, it seems to be cut too short and I >>>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if this isn't the workings of soul, as we are connected >>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>> eternally to those we love most. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Love watching the sun rise.. sailing creates strange >>>>>>>>>>>>> perspectives. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:15 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When I stop watching the clock, sunrise and sunset still give >>>>>>>>>>>>> a pace of time to my day. The seasons give a broader pace. We age >>>>>>>>>>>>> in time. >>>>>>>>>>>>> We measure change with time. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:35:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in my younger days the book that gave the value of cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was actually blue. Hence the name.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See Tony even I can take leaps forward into reality.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lol. (",) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 8:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds really deep Tony - maybe we should leave it buried? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality has taken a leap forward with Allan recognising a book >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> book plug. Soon he will be able to tell us a blue book is blue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't). We don't know there is a reality. There is a reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get real people! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 5:33:19 PM UTC+1, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is an abstraction, a non quantifiable human invention >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used for measurement. Said more simply, it is not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> substance but the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flask. Outside of human conjecture time does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did watch the movie. Interesting reminded me of a book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promotion. . And we actually have heard the same logic from RP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hindu God.. did not agree with that argument either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end there was a promotion for his book. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He gets into a lot of Einstein concepts on time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to him and the other program. Time is evasive and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective. A perspective unique to each person. . The one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently physics can not prove is the exsistance if time. . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlike the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusions people these people want to jump to.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would seem to me that all our souls are responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for is the perspective known by the unique soul inside the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-time ¿known? to exist within the reality of time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which gets back to the original question just what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heck is time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:47 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was in my mailbox (interestingly enough) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:03:34 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is time. I always thouhght of it as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constant.. only to find it is a veriable .. unlike other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veriables.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is ¿Time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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