Who said that turiya-state makes you enlightened. You just have an
experience of bliss and nothing more, like tasting a delicious sweet.

On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 3:06 PM <[email protected] wrote:

> Sorry a junky is still a junky not an enlightened junky
>
> Do No Harm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Hindu
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> Turiya-state is the one in which all the senses close down and there is
> awareness of bliss and nothing else. It can be achieved naturally through
> concentration, but also through the use of some narcotics. It is just a
> state of the organism like the other states. You do not come back if you
> really realize the Self .
>
> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 2:36 PM <[email protected] wrote:
>
>> RP you have just jumped in with both both feet in a pet peeve of mine..
>> over the years I have been in what you are referring to the  "
>> turiya-state " on mutiable times WITHOUT the use of drugs to achieve that
>> state. I personally do not feel the use of drug to achive
>> turiya-state would be a true turiya-state but rather drug induced state
>> nothing more.
>> When you introduce drugs into spirituality it removes validity of the
>> experience.. over the years I have talked with people claiming to the
>> achived turiya both naturally and drug induced.. leaving my own experiences
>> out  of  the discussion they are different. You would  not realize that
>> unless you have achieved the natural state of turiya.
>> I do not approve of drug use.
>> 2:  if  it was not for the internet and the ability to look up
>> turiya-state you have said nothing but babble. Your inability to explain
>> turiya-state  demonstrates a lack of understanding.
>> Blunt with no apologies.
>> Allan
>>
>> Do No Harm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 8:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Hindu
>>
>> That state in which the self is known subjectively within oneself is the
>> turiya-state of the organism , just like the sleep-state, the dream-state,
>> the awake-state and the coma-state. Turiya-state can be achieved through
>> the use of some drugs as well.
>> The Self is above all states and is known to be without attributes, once
>> a soul attains to him he does not comes back to the lower self.
>>
>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 12:33 PM Vam <[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, that is one great assurance of all Gods and Gurus to the Hindu :
>>>
>>> Never believe that you are alone.
>>> There is always the One with you, behind you.
>>>
>>> Again, it is felt and known subjectively, within ourself.
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