Sure you are Allan, I am RP and everyone is mortal. But that which is
within all of us, the One, is Atman and is immortal, unborn and uncreate.

On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 9:57 PM <[email protected] wrote:

> I am Allan
>
>
> Do No Harm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Hindu
>
> Turyatita state is the state of Atman. It is unattainable because on
> attaining to it you are no more. This is the supreme Reality beyond maya or
> illusion of duality.
>
> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 4:58 PM Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected] wrote:
>
>> There are many paths to enlightenment as stated in the Gita.
>> Path of worship.
>> Path of work.
>> Path of Raj Yoga
>> Path of knowledge,
>> Etc.
>> Path of knowledge is considered the best and the most difficult. I have
>> tread this path since I was 18.
>>
>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 4:31 PM <[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> RP you don't know me at all. I am  wondering if the the only person you
>>> listen to is RP.   IF are ¿enlightened? I suspect chemical inducement.
>>> There is no sense talking ,  U already have all the answers you want and
>>> need.
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>> Do No Harm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Hindu
>>>
>>> Turiya-state is the one in which all the senses close down and there is
>>> awareness of bliss and nothing else. It can be achieved naturally through
>>> concentration, but also through the use of some narcotics. It is just a
>>> state of the organism like the other states. You do not come back if you
>>> really realize the Self .
>>>
>>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 2:36 PM <[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> RP you have just jumped in with both both feet in a pet peeve of mine..
>>>> over the years I have been in what you are referring to the  "
>>>> turiya-state " on mutiable times WITHOUT the use of drugs to achieve
>>>> that state. I personally do not feel the use of drug to achive
>>>> turiya-state would be a true turiya-state but rather drug induced state
>>>> nothing more.
>>>> When you introduce drugs into spirituality it removes validity of the
>>>> experience.. over the years I have talked with people claiming to the
>>>> achived turiya both naturally and drug induced.. leaving my own experiences
>>>> out  of  the discussion they are different. You would  not realize that
>>>> unless you have achieved the natural state of turiya.
>>>> I do not approve of drug use.
>>>> 2:  if  it was not for the internet and the ability to look up
>>>> turiya-state you have said nothing but babble. Your inability to explain
>>>> turiya-state  demonstrates a lack of understanding.
>>>> Blunt with no apologies.
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>> Do No Harm
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 8:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Hindu
>>>>
>>>> That state in which the self is known subjectively within oneself is
>>>> the turiya-state of the organism , just like the sleep-state, the
>>>> dream-state, the awake-state and the coma-state. Turiya-state can be
>>>> achieved through the use of some drugs as well.
>>>> The Self is above all states and is known to be without attributes,
>>>> once a soul attains to him he does not comes back to the lower self.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 12:33 PM Vam <[email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ah, that is one great assurance of all Gods and Gurus to the Hindu :
>>>>>
>>>>> Never believe that you are alone.
>>>>> There is always the One with you, behind you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, it is felt and known subjectively, within ourself.
>>>>>
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