On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Adrien Nader <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, Matthew Brett wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:04 AM, John E. / TDM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On 4/28/2014 5:17 AM, JonY wrote:
> >> >> mingw-w64 may migrate from svn to git in the future, seeing that sf can
> >> >> now do multiple repos per project.
> >> > *snip*
> >> >> Discuss.
> >> >
> >> > I'm a bit surprised at the choice of Git -- in my experience, Windows
> >> > developers usually prefer Mercurial (<http://mercurial.selenic.com/>)
> >> > because on Windows it is more lightweight and performant than Git.
> >> >
> >> > I also prefer Mercurial to Git because I find its syntax and workflow
> >> > more intuitive. This is of course personal taste.
> >> >
> >> > Mercurial repositories are also available in SourceForge. But if the
> >> > primary MinGW-w64 contributors are all more familiar with Git then I
> >> > suppose it shall be Git.
> >> >
> >> > My two cents. :)
> >>
> >> >From the sidelines - a big yes please for switching to git.  In my
> >> experience, the ease of git branching makes it far more comfortable
> >> making and proposing changes, even substantial changes.
> >>
> >> I hear the same is true of mercurial, but I know it much less well.
> >>
> >> I very much like the github pull-request system for code review - does
> >> sourceforge have something similar?  I know bitbucket does.  For the
> >> projects I'm involved in, pull requests make proposing changes very
> >> fluid, and they are good for recording discussion as well.
> >
> > I quite dislike github and its UI in particular. Uses flash on every
> > page (no idea what for) and lots of javascript which makes my laptop
> > heat and get noisy when displaying something as small as a 3-lines diff.
> >
> > Anyway, is there an advantage github's pages over doing it on the
> > mailing-list like it is currently done? The amount of messages which
> > comes from that doesn't seem to be an issue.
> 
> Sometimes it doesn't seem as if small things will make much
> difference, but when you try them, they do.
> 
> Things really change when you're using git - because
> 
> a) work is naturally arranged in commits (this helps review and organization)
> b) you can make more substantial changes because branching / merging is so 
> easy
> 
> This makes it harder to review patches as text in email, because
> patches usually don't carry the commit info, and because it's only
> comfortable to review small changes in email text. It's very
> inconvenient reviewing larger work-in-progress changes via patches,
> because it's easy to lose track of the relationship of previous
> comments and code changes.  If the author responds to comments, they
> either have to email the whole revised patch again, or you the
> developer need to keep a branch of your own in sync with theirs, in
> order to test their changes.
> 
> This is why the pull-request mechanism is so remarkably good in github
> - it makes proposing changes part of ordinary workflow.  A proposed
> change is always just a branch.
> 
> 1) Start work on your own branch
> 2) Push to your own fork on github while you're working
> 3) Make pull request via a few clicks or 'hub' command line tool
> 4) Anyone can comment on whole pull request, individual commits or
> individual lines, using github email interface or web form interface.
> 5) Comments remain on web interface for public record.
> 6) Developer can rebase on master as needed using same pull request pages.
> 
> I think this isn't very obvious at first because svn is so hard to
> branch that you very rarely get substantial / long-lived changes
> except by the lead developers.
> 
> I really like the command line, I use vim as my editor, never use GUIs
> for git - but I couldn't live without the github pull-request
> interface for my projects.

I see, thanks.

When the amount of code to review gets larger, I simply run gitk which
is not pretty but works really well. Gives the commit history and diffs
and files modified; it's one of the 3 non-CLI applications I run on a
daily basis.

I also like that once the changes are available locally (not necessarily
checked out on disk), I can use the usual tools to find and grep while
github's search has never helped me find something interesting (and same
for everyone around me).

-- 
Adrien Nader

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