On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, J Sisson <sisso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro <jmisc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib <ji...@devio.us> wrote:
>> Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default,
>> > where there is no command to disable shitty upstart daemons?
>> Which daemons are those again?
>> apt-get install <some_insecure_daemon>
> Oh look, <some_unsecure_daemon> is running before I have a chance to
> configure it and lock it down the way I see fit. B <sarcasm>Good thing we
> know those Ubuntu/Debian guys are so damned smart and all...</sarcasm>

why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different
than X listening on localhost by default in obsd? if you install a
daemon in debian/ubuntu and it listens on by default, the
package isn't following distro policy

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