2014-06-29 1:05 GMT+02:00 ian kremlin <i...@kremlin.cc>: >> that bsd is being crowded out, a thought that had not crossed my mind. >> I wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do >> people really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so, >> I'd be interested in doing something about it. Thanks, David > > yes, systemd has become a very polarizing subject due to its > unportability (as it's written in pure C) and the mindset and actions of > its authors. it is much, much more than an init daemon and while its > prevalence has served to hurt other systems in the short-term, I > guarantee you will we work around it and do systemd's job properly and > safely just as (we) have done with other software in the past. i am not > a long-term OpenBSD contributor and am admittedly a fledgling > programmer, but from what I've witnessed much of the > systemd/anti-systemd debate is rife with needless animosity and ego.
systemd is very invasive and destroys all that different. That's why people are angry. http://ewontfix.com/14/ http://ewontfix.com/15/ by Rich Felker (musl libc). >> That said there is a GSOC project underway as we type to bring a much >> slimmed down systemd look-alike functionality to OpenBSD to allow more >> not-well written software to be ported. > > that's me :) > soon, (by the end of gsoc) we will have perfect implementations of https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen-gdbus-interfaces.sh;h=f827434d0211ea8765c075fdb2916386ffc16ecb;hb=HEAD btw. it's bashism in a posix shell suit? Daniel > hostnamed, localed, and timedated as well as a framework for porting the > logind behemoth. you can follow the progress at > https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git > > ian