> Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Hell, the OpenBSD ports tree should perhaps contain patches which > > REMOVE such commercial operating system support. That's a fork > > Richard would surely approve of. > > > > Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo. > > > I have no doubt that in some context Richard is hypocritical. > Though most of us would be hard pressed to structure our lives > to be consistent with our beleifs and principles to the extent > that he has. > > But this is not about EMACS, nor is it about hypocracy.
RMS made statements first. RMS will pay for his lies. > It is about OpenBSD. > Securing the RSM seal of approval may or may not appeal to you. RMS may have tried to make this about OpenBSD, but he's failed, because he has shown that he does _exactly_ what he says we should not do. > But that still begs the question of OpenBSD's stance on non-free > software. No. Nothing begs the question of what we do. We are not going to change our process in any way as a result of what some loony retard says. > Whether you literally adopt Richard's views or not > rather than try to persuade him to back down on his principles, > it might make sense to actually decide what yours are. > Criticizing others is easy. We know _exactly_ what our principles are, and we are sticking to them very clearly. > From the perspective of OpenBSD values, > How far does the OpenBSD disdain for non-free software extend ? Richard does not stand in a position where he can ask that question to us. Nor do you. We'll do what we want, and your questions don't change anything. > Establish what your principles and policies are or are going to be. We did. Years ago. Did you? > Adhere to them and THEN if they are consistent with Richard's > you can insist on his endorsement or burn him as a hypocrit. We do adhere to our principles very exactly. Richard does not adhere to what he preaches. Richard came to our lists on a vendetta of hatred. Richard lied about our project. Richard continues, and he won't stop, and therefore he is an asshole. He'll get what he deserves -- we don't drop this issue now that he's gone so far. > If you are unwilling to adopt policies consistent with his, > accept that you are not getting his endorsement and shut this thread > down. Why do you get to tell people what threads should be shut down? Why don't you mail Richard and tell him to stop mailing our lists? Or are you his little brother? > This whole RSM is a hypocritical asshole because he will not make an > exception for OpenBSD > thread is absurd. Having jumped onto the pulpit, Richard cannot preach that which he does not follow himself. > Trying to argue that there is a technological means of circumventing > principles is ludicrous. So go tell Richard. Don't tell us. > In the event there actually was, it would just demonstrate another > loophole that needed closed. > > In essence Stallman has thrown the guantlet at you. This is not > about the GPL vs. ISC/BSD. > There is nothing here that contravenes OpenBSD core principles as I > understand them. > Even if there is conform your policy to your principles - whatever > they are. > There is an oportunity here for some real cooperation between the > FSF and OpenBSD, in ways that > would be both beneficial to both and consistent with the principles > of both. There is no cooperation between FSF and OpenBSD, and if Richard keeps throwing poo at us, we will keep throwing poo right back at him and his hyporcritical project. > Richard has offered you the oportunity to aquire his endorsement. That's bullshit. Richard came looking for a fight. I don't think he expected to look this much like a loser. > With very little effort OpenBSD could be the most significant OS > with Richard Stallman's impratur > certifying it as totally free. We are free. We don't need some uneducated guy who climbed up into some high chair endorsing us; he is jealous of what we do, and that noone else listens to him anymore. > If that does not matter then shut this thread down, because it is > pointless. Threads continue when idiots like you post to them.
