On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:56:52 +0100
Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Who am I Theo asked, a big fat nobody (maybe), but I started this
> issue to begin with and after criticizing Theo for being unnecessary
> rude to Richard I have noticed that Richard keeps avoiding the facts!
> 
> Richard you continue to avoid the questions or issues brought forth by
> Theo, could you please focus on the issue rather than commenting the
> same statements over and over again!

FULL ACK! 

Richard, please answer to the (following) issues/facts brought up by
Theo!

> Theo wrote:
> 
> > On the bsd talk show you did not withhold your recommendation
> > because the ports system suggests non-free programs.  No way,
> > that's not what you said on that show.
> > 
> > What actually happened is that you withheld your recommendation
> > because it CONTAINS non-free programs; that is what your words were.
> 
> This is the TRUTH, anybody can hear that for himself, and that's why I
> wrote to the list in the first place!
>  
> > It turns out that the above assessment was based on a complete lack
> > of research.  It was uneducated, and you should have apologized for
> > the error.
> > 
> > You were really clear in your interview.  And wrong.
> > 
> > Later on, on this mailing list, you have changed your statements to
> > say that your recommend against OpenBSD because it now... RECOMMENDS
> > non-free software.
> 
> Clearly the TRUTH as well! We have all witnessed that!
> 
> > We've made it quite clear that Emacs and gcc recommend the use of
> > non-free software, by directly containing code to support those
> > systems.  The ports tree does not contain code to support non-free
> > components.  It simply provides URLs to a few select things which
> > people might wish to use.  Itself, it contains no non-free code and
> > makes no recommendations.  But gcc and emacs directly contain code
> > which RECOMMENDS compilation on non-free systems, by actually
> > compiling and running there.
> 
> This is the TRUTH! By containing code which recommends compilation on
> non-free system then Richard you are doing MORE to support non-free
> than the OpenBSD ports system is! That's a fact! That's NOT an
> opinion.
> 
> > You are a hypocritical liar, Richard.
> > 
> > Your lies taint the efforts of the entire FSF and GNU communities.
> > 
> > Shame on you all for letting Richard mislead you so.
> 
> I am sorry Theo, I know you don't give a rats ass, but you are right,
> and you have been right all along! 
> 
> Dear Richard unless you actually address the above mentioned issues,
> in context of the e-mail from Theo, you will look hypocritical! You
> say what you don't do yourself.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Rico Secada.

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