-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:15:37 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann" <dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: >If I recall it correct, it should help. >This has also the benefit that you can see more tracks in the >library. >
And whatever other controls as well... interesting. > >Am 08.06.2015 um 23:10 schrieb re-cy...@hushmail.com: >> Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the >height >> but keeping the width re: CPU? >> >> ~RAWRR >> >> >> On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann" >> <dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: >> > Hi Markus, >> >> > Nice mock-up. >> >> > In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms >because >> > the CPU >> > usage increases with the size. >> > So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx >default >> > skin. >> > IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the >> > LateNight skin. >> >> > But there should be no problem with a recent devices. >> > If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome >to >> > fork it. >> > Thats the benefit of our skin engine. >> >> > Kind regards. >> >> > Daniel >> >> >> >> > Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: >> >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >> >>> >> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >> >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >> >>> waveform 1 >> >>> waveform 2 >> >>> waveform 3 >> >>> waveform 4 >> >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >> >> I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so >on, >> > just >> >> simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. >> >> I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen- >wide >> >> waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that >> > doesn't work >> >> out for 4 decks. >> >> >> >> I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config- >> > options but >> >> better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution >> > maybe). >> >> >> >> The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and >> > results in >> >> lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. >> >> >> >> The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader >and >> > the >> >> preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without >the >> > mixer >> >> there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would >it >> > be >> >> possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) >> > there? That >> >> would result in the big waveforms for me. >> >> >> >> Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen- > >> > wide and >> >> place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch >> > was in >> >> 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, >> > HeadGain and >> >> Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be >placed >> > like >> >> proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of >> > previewDeck and >> >> maybe Mics. >> >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] >> >> [------------------] [Waveform 3] [------------------] >> >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] >> >> [------------------] [Waveform 4] [------------------] >> >> [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] >> >> [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] >> >> [Samplers] >> >> [Effects] >> >> [Library] >> >> >> >> I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd >> >> I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and >this >> > dosn't >> >> get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger >> > waveforms. >> >> >> >> But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and >should >> > better >> >> be done in an other skin. >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Markus >> >> >> >> Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: >> >>> I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels >like >> > putting >> >>> bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to >> > solve. >> >>> There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that >it's >> > kinda >> >>> overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better >> > solutions to >> >>> those design challenges would take a lot of effort that >> > shouldn't delay >> >>> 1.12. >> >>> >> >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >> >>> >> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >> >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >> >>> waveform 1 >> >>> waveform 2 >> >>> waveform 3 >> >>> waveform 4 >> >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >> >>> >> >>> On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote: >> >>>> "thanks" as in, you tested it and it works well? I don't >want >> > to commit >> >>>> without someone taking a look at it. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 +0000 "Owen Williams" >> >>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >> >>>>>> I've posted a PR for some new LateNight display options. >> > I'm >> >>>>>> definitely >> >>>>>> running up against the limits of the skinning engine so I >> > can't do >> >>>>>> a lot >> >>>>>> more than this. But it makes it possible to specifically >> > select >> >>>>>> the big >> >>>>>> waveforms if you want them. It also makes it possible to >> > turn off >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> EQs to save some vertical space without eliminating the >> > whole >> >>>>>> mixer. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks:) >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 05:16 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>>>>>> Owen, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> That mockup was poorly thought out re: mixer, sorry. I >> > never use >> >>>>>> 4 >> >>>>>>> decks :/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> If you aren't sick of my backseat driving yet, I just >had >> >>>>>> another >> >>>>>>> slightly radical idea - make LateNight's library "toggle >> > only", >> >>>>>> so >> >>>>>>> that the "big library" button becomes the only way to >see >> > it. >> >>>>>> This >> >>>>>>> wouldn't inhibit my personal use style, and it would >free >> > the >> >>>>>>> entire screen for controls. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Possibly a complimentary idea is to let the search field >> > remain >> >>>>>> in >> >>>>>>> the main window, and have "big library" open with the >> > results, >> >>>>>>> either as you type or after hitting enter. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Just for fun I've attached the Gimp .xcf layers I used >for >> > the >> >>>>>>> mockup, which can be used in a paper-doll fashion. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ~RAWRR >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:01:55 +0000 "Owen Williams" >> >>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> I think we should come up with some sort of standard >> > effect >> >>>>>> rack >> >>>>>>>> template that all the skins can share (and theme as >> > necessary) >> >>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>> I'm >> >>>>>>>> not sure we can do that in time for release. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> There is currently not enough room for big waveforms >and >> > the >> >>>>>> mixer >> >>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> also 4 decks. At low resolutions, it's already >impossible >> > to >> >>>>>> show >> >>>>>>>> every >> >>>>>>>> UI element, and the skin system is not flexible enough >to >> > allow >> >>>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>> every possible combination of elements. So the design >is >> > a >> >>>>>> best- >> >>>>>>>> effort >> >>>>>>>> at letting people choose a good layout. Ultimately if >> > there's >> >>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>> skin >> >>>>>>>> design you want that isn't possible, it may be >necessary >> > to >> >>>>>> create >> >>>>>>>> a new >> >>>>>>>> skin for it. For a while I was maintaining LateNight- >> > Wide, >> >>>>>> which >> >>>>>>>> had >> >>>>>>>> all four decks horizontally and the waveforms at the >top, >> >>>>>> spanning >> >>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>> width of the screen. Maybe it's time to resurrect >that. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:40 +0000, re- >cy...@hushmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Owen, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I've been using the LateNight resizeable skin and I >have >> > a >> >>>>>>>> couple >> >>>>>>>>> of issues: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Can we get a thing where the effects bank can >optionally >> > get >> >>>>>>>>> minimized, possibly back to the simplistic dials >existing >> >>>>>>>>> previously? I'm running out of real estate on all of >my >> >>>>>> screens, >> >>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>> don't currently have any hi-res ones. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Related, I kind of hate being forced to choose >waveforms >> > vs. >> >>>>>>>> mixer, >> >>>>>>>>> and the loss of big waveforms in that skin to begin >with. >> > It >> >>>>>>>> seems >> >>>>>>>>> to me the reason they got 86'd was the effects bank >> > mentioned >> >>>>>>>> above. >> >>>>>>>>> Didn't file a bug because this is just my >> >>>>>> experience/preference, >> >>>>>>>>> but thought you'd want feedback. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> ~RAWRR >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:53:57 +0000 "Owen Williams" >> >>>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:29 -0400, RJ Ryan wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The skins are in kind of bad shape at the moment. >They >> >>>>>> really >> >>>>>>>>>> need >> >>>>>>>>>>> polish to bring them to design bar that we set >pretty >> > high >> >>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> You mention skins are in a bad shape -- can you file >> > bugs >> >>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>> issues you >> >>>>>>>>>> know about? I've been fixing the LateNight bugs as >they >> > are >> >>>>>>>>>> reported >> >>>>>>>>>> and I think things are in a pretty good state there. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> We really need to get the Deere stuff merged in, >though. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >--- >> > ---- >> >>>>>> --- >> >>>>>>>> --- >> >>>>>>>>>> ----------- >> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> >>>>>>>>>> http://mixxx.org >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> >>>>>>>>>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx- >devel >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >--- >> > --------------- >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> >>>> http://mixxx.org >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> >>>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >>>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >> > -------------- >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> >>> http://mixxx.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> >>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >> > ------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >> > ----------- >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> > http://mixxx.org >> >> >> > Mixxx-devel mailing list >> > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 3.0 wpwEAQMCAAYFAlV2CnEACgkQzo/Gj4mkNMx49wP/blr3/jPgaPjPyFeGE1eGDd9aM1wA sq+LTie8gtxKaTMWX78j05J/lQawj6UCTJ/v/ATyirx7f3tt1mBdv2v5f8QzpMNnvSnV HXCPRpMIFW+hh/4ZfiSOZ34dU8Ey+YQjVhttI/47phTNK+U1dcn3uK4ZVqMHi6xKyWmf NIcVTXI= =H+vO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
