Hi Markus, Nice mock-up.
In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms because the CPU usage increases with the size. So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx default skin. IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the LateNight skin. But there should be no problem with a recent devices. If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome to fork it. Thats the benefit of our skin engine. Kind regards. Daniel Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: >> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >> >> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >> waveform 1 >> waveform 2 >> waveform 3 >> waveform 4 >> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] > I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on, just > simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. > I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen-wide > waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that doesn't work > out for 4 decks. > > I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config-options but > better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution maybe). > > The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and results in > lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. > > The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and the > preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the mixer > there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it be > possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) there? That > would result in the big waveforms for me. > > Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen-wide and > place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch was in > 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, HeadGain and > Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed like > proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of previewDeck and > maybe Mics. > [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] > [------------------] [Waveform 3] [------------------] > [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] > [------------------] [Waveform 4] [------------------] > [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] > [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] > [Samplers] > [Effects] > [Library] > > I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd > I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this dosn't > get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger waveforms. > > But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should better > be done in an other skin. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > Markus > > Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: >> I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like putting >> bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to solve. >> There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's kinda >> overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better solutions to >> those design challenges would take a lot of effort that shouldn't delay >> 1.12. >> >> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >> >> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >> waveform 1 >> waveform 2 >> waveform 3 >> waveform 4 >> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >> >> On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote: >>> "thanks" as in, you tested it and it works well? I don't want to commit >>> without someone taking a look at it. >>> >>> On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>> I've posted a PR for some new LateNight display options. I'm >>>>> definitely >>>>> running up against the limits of the skinning engine so I can't do >>>>> a lot >>>>> more than this. But it makes it possible to specifically select >>>>> the big >>>>> waveforms if you want them. It also makes it possible to turn off >>>>> the >>>>> EQs to save some vertical space without eliminating the whole >>>>> mixer. >>>>> >>>> Thanks:) >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 05:16 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>>>> Owen, >>>>>> >>>>>> That mockup was poorly thought out re: mixer, sorry. I never use >>>>> 4 >>>>>> decks :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> If you aren't sick of my backseat driving yet, I just had >>>>> another >>>>>> slightly radical idea - make LateNight's library "toggle only", >>>>> so >>>>>> that the "big library" button becomes the only way to see it. >>>>> This >>>>>> wouldn't inhibit my personal use style, and it would free the >>>>>> entire screen for controls. >>>>>> >>>>>> Possibly a complimentary idea is to let the search field remain >>>>> in >>>>>> the main window, and have "big library" open with the results, >>>>>> either as you type or after hitting enter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just for fun I've attached the Gimp .xcf layers I used for the >>>>>> mockup, which can be used in a paper-doll fashion. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~RAWRR >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:01:55 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>>>> I think we should come up with some sort of standard effect >>>>> rack >>>>>>> template that all the skins can share (and theme as necessary) >>>>> but >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> not sure we can do that in time for release. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is currently not enough room for big waveforms and the >>>>> mixer >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> also 4 decks. At low resolutions, it's already impossible to >>>>> show >>>>>>> every >>>>>>> UI element, and the skin system is not flexible enough to allow >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> every possible combination of elements. So the design is a >>>>> best- >>>>>>> effort >>>>>>> at letting people choose a good layout. Ultimately if there's >>>>> a >>>>>>> skin >>>>>>> design you want that isn't possible, it may be necessary to >>>>> create >>>>>>> a new >>>>>>> skin for it. For a while I was maintaining LateNight-Wide, >>>>> which >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> all four decks horizontally and the waveforms at the top, >>>>> spanning >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> width of the screen. Maybe it's time to resurrect that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:40 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> Owen, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been using the LateNight resizeable skin and I have a >>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>> of issues: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can we get a thing where the effects bank can optionally get >>>>>>>> minimized, possibly back to the simplistic dials existing >>>>>>>> previously? I'm running out of real estate on all of my >>>>> screens, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> don't currently have any hi-res ones. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Related, I kind of hate being forced to choose waveforms vs. >>>>>>> mixer, >>>>>>>> and the loss of big waveforms in that skin to begin with. It >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>> to me the reason they got 86'd was the effects bank mentioned >>>>>>> above. >>>>>>>> Didn't file a bug because this is just my >>>>> experience/preference, >>>>>>>> but thought you'd want feedback. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~RAWRR >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:53:57 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:29 -0400, RJ Ryan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The skins are in kind of bad shape at the moment. They >>>>> really >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> polish to bring them to design bar that we set pretty high >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You mention skins are in a bad shape -- can you file bugs >>>>> for >>>>>>>>> issues you >>>>>>>>> know about? I've been fixing the LateNight bugs as they are >>>>>>>>> reported >>>>>>>>> and I think things are in a pretty good state there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We really need to get the Deere stuff merged in, though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> ----------- >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >>>>>>>>> http://mixxx.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mixxx-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >>> http://mixxx.org >>> >>> >>> Mixxx-devel mailing list >>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today > http://mixxx.org > > > Mixxx-devel mailing list > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
