Uh, no.  The car understeers like a pig with the stock
bar arrangement.  With the larger rear bar and stock
front bar the car is neutral.  I can lift in the
middle of a turn and the rear end still follows the
front.  It's predictable and neutral.  I suggest you
try it.

-josh


--- Denis Palmans <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think I disagree on this. Not adding any swaybars
> to the front is just as
> pointless as only adding a huge rear sway bar. The
> swaybars connect the
> suspension on both sides of the car, allowing for
> roll resistance. A larger
> front swaybar would help to keep both front tires in
> contact with the
> ground, which should allow for more grip in order to
> turn faster and harder.
> Adding a huge bar to the back and leaving the front
> alone seems like it is
> not what you would want to do. It would change the
> car from understeer to
> slight oversteer, which while it would defiantly be
> fun would also be more
> unpredictable and probably not as fast and
> consistent.
> I agree with adding on a rear bar, but to not add a
> front bar, or
> disconnecting the front bar does not seem like a
> good idea to me. Adding a
> front bar, and then dialing in a rear bar from there
> to provide the best
> feel seems like it should be how to go. Just because
> the car understeers or
> doesn't 'feel' as fast doesn't mean it really is
> slower.
> It would almost be like running much higher rate
> springs on the rear than on
> the front of the car.
> 
> Any suspension experts in here?
> 
> -Denis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DocWyte" <[email protected]>
> To: "Rich Blake" <[email protected]>; "A2-16v"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [A2-16v] Suspension Report Auto X
> 
> 
> > Add the largest rear swaybar you can.  I like the
> > Shine Racing swaybar, it has no brackets that can
> fail
> > and no bushings that creak.
> >
> > Leave the stock front swaybar in place!!!  If you
> add
> > a larger front swaybar you might as well not even
> > bother to get swaybars at all, you'll only be
> > counteracting the larger rear swaybar and dialing
> in
> > understeer...
> >
> > -josh
> >
> >
> > --- Rich Blake <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Finally got the car on the track with the new
> > > suspension bits (Bilstien
> > > HD/H&R Sport springs) and results are good and
> bad.
> > > The good is that the
> > > car is much less prone to body roll and turn in
> is
> > > more precise and smooth.
> > > Definately feels much better than stock
> suspension.
> > > The bad is I'm still
> > > pushing hard coming out of the corners which
> tells
> > > me I need some stiffer
> > > swaybars.  I tried to play with tire pressure
> and
> > > lowering the rears 2 psi
> > > got me .200 sec slower.  Overall however, I am
> about
> > > 2 seconds faster than
> > > before with the new stuff.  With street tires I
> am
> > > in the lower mid pack in
> > > DSP which is pretty good for a mostly stock
> under
> > > prepared car.  Stiffer
> > > bars, more neg camber (@-1.5 now) and some
> actual
> > > race tires and I might be
> > > competitive.  Saving dollars...
> > >
> > > Rich Blake
> > >
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