It is not only "Canonical is trying to produce an interface which will work anywhere". It is global movement, see Google Android and HP WebOS. In few years old well known Desktop environment will remain only for particular tasks. For example, I cannot imagine CAD/CAE moved to new technologies today. But for home user and SMEs it is right direction. As with any change you just need to get used :) -- Gregory Smirnov
On 2 May 2011 14:12, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt> wrote: > "My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an interface > which will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook, Netbook, > Notepad(ipad type) or Mobile phone." > > Yes, that was their mistake. It's like "You can have any colour as long as > it's black", only this applies not just to colour but to shape and size too. > It is IMPOSSIBLE to have an interface that works well for every device on > the planet. My mobile phone with its small multitouch screen is not the same > as the dual-screen high resolution display on my laptop. What they've come > up with is an interface that looks and feels like crap on all devices. > > Ramon Casha > > > On 2 May 2011 10:46, Alan Muscat <alan.p.mus...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I am going to take the risk of evangelising to the wrong >> people(yourselves). Please excuse me for doing this but I feel that I must >> point out a glaring fact which everyone seems to be missing. I must ask all >> of you to put yourselves into a normal everyday user's shoes, for example a >> Windows user, before simply shooting Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal down. >> >> Do not forget that Canonical(Mark Shuttleworth) is striving to produce a >> world class desktop Operating System designed to compete with the likes of >> Mac OS and Windows 7. The intention of Ubuntu is to provide an easy to use >> desktop environment, for everyday users(not the likes of us!!), conducive to >> a comfortable working environment. Note also that Canonical's strategy was >> to remove the notebook(NBR) version of Ubuntu. This happened because the >> desktop version actually provides the functionality of the notebook version. >> My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an interface which >> will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook, Netbook, Notepad(ipad >> type) or Mobile phone. This ability should make the interface very >> attractive as the same user interface paradigm will be used throughout the >> whole spectrum of hardware platforms, making it less confusing for the >> everyday user. The Unity interface is also designed with multi-touch in mind >> and it must be experienced in this format and not just with the mouse point >> and click interaction. My opinion on 11.04 Natty Narwhal, is to give it a >> chance. It is as yet in it's infancy and only time will tell how it will >> mature. It is up to us to try and give feedback and help it grow into a >> world class OS. >> >> As for myself. I have installed Natty Narwhal on my notebook, I will not >> be installing on my desktop as yet. Initially via an upgrade which went very >> well until I decided to try and get my desktop cube back(I will not be >> trying that again any time soon!!) and lost the whole interface in the >> process. I have finally, after an interim full install on just my root >> partition which also left me without an interface, performed a full clean >> install. By the way I opted to use btrfs instead of ext4 and will let you >> know how that goes in the future. I must admit that my first impression of >> Unity is that I do not like it at all, keeping in mind that I am using mouse >> point and click interaction with Unity. I really hate the side bar however I >> believe the idea here is to make it easily adaptable to a mobile phone >> screen. Otherwise my first good impression is that the graphics seem to be >> smoother then before(It could be just me trying to justify my using Unity). >> >> Anyway I have ranted and raved enough, .... please go easy on me. >> >> Alan. >> >> PS: I think we may see the rise of another Ubuntu flavour after this move >> to Unity. In the vain of Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu ... etc. Something like >> Oubuntu(Original Ubuntu)? Maybe? >> >> >> >> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 20:07 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: >> >> that's exactly what i was afraid of and why I haven't upgraded yet..I >> might just move to arch for my work laptop aswell >> >> On 1 May 2011 18:07, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt> wrote: >> >> I upgraded but I'm totally underwhelmed by Natty's Unity AND the Gnome3 >> shell. It seems that these interfaces both try to aim for the lowest common >> denominator. I don't consider this to be a step forward at all. I like a >> system that provides me with the ability to tweak it exactly as I want, not >> a system that is fixed in what someone considered the best option for >> everyone. >> >> >> Ramon Casha >> >> >> >> On 1 May 2011 12:20, Keith Vassallo <kei...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Watch out upgrading if you have an ATI graphics card. Major problems on >> some models. >> >> Wouldn't boot on my sister's laptop >> >> K >> >> On 01 May 2011, at 11:01, Andrew Cilia wrote: >> >> The sane,sober,sensible aviators have spoken. If it works, don't fix it. >> >> >> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 09:10 +0200, Paul Morley wrote: >> >> Yes I totally agree Daniel, the big thing about Linux is choice and the >> ability to tweak. >> I am still using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but tweaked with: >> >> The Kernel is 2.6.38-8 patched for lucid >> Nividia graphic kernel is 260.19.44 >> LibreOffice 3.3.2 >> Thunderbird 3.1.10 with Charemel 1.4.1 theme. >> Rhythmbox and Evolution removed, and lots more minor changes. >> >> So will be staying away from Unity 11.04 as I'm happy with my current >> setup. >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> On 05/01/2011 08:31 AM, Daniel wrote: >> >> In my opinion in 11.04 its not the googling and tweaking which is a >> problem (although when googling I don't find all the answers !!!) but it is >> going to limit our freedom in tweaking the system. If it becomes like >> windows where we can just change a few flashy things but not more, then the >> community will look for alternatives....... >> >> Daniel >> >> Hi All, >> >> Anyone installed 11.04? I'm kind of apprehensive about the new interface >> breaking my carefully assembled linux box.... last upgrade, my scanner >> didn't work and it needed a day of googling and tweaking to get it >> moving again... >> >> Joseph >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> >> -- >> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > _______________________________________________ MLUG-list mailing list MLUG-list@linux.org.mt http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list
