Im not bothered with the new interface - I didn't like it so I didn't upgrade on my laptop.
I updated to gnome 3 on my arch linux and i can work with it fine. Quirky and hard to configure but it works for now. If I don't want that I can move to something else completely. KDE, elightenment etc.. After all this has always been the power of OSS - don't like it ? Change it /fork it On 11 May 2011 13:47, Gregory Smirnov <greg...@2x.com> wrote: > It is not only "Canonical is trying to produce an interface which will > work anywhere". It is global movement, see Google Android and HP > WebOS. In few years old well known Desktop environment will remain > only for particular tasks. For example, I cannot imagine CAD/CAE moved > to new technologies today. But for home user and SMEs it is right > direction. As with any change you just need to get used :) > -- > Gregory Smirnov > > On 2 May 2011 14:12, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt> wrote: > > "My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an interface > > which will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook, Netbook, > > Notepad(ipad type) or Mobile phone." > > > > Yes, that was their mistake. It's like "You can have any colour as long > as > > it's black", only this applies not just to colour but to shape and size > too. > > It is IMPOSSIBLE to have an interface that works well for every device on > > the planet. My mobile phone with its small multitouch screen is not the > same > > as the dual-screen high resolution display on my laptop. What they've > come > > up with is an interface that looks and feels like crap on all devices. > > > > Ramon Casha > > > > > > On 2 May 2011 10:46, Alan Muscat <alan.p.mus...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Dear All, > >> > >> I am going to take the risk of evangelising to the wrong > >> people(yourselves). Please excuse me for doing this but I feel that I > must > >> point out a glaring fact which everyone seems to be missing. I must ask > all > >> of you to put yourselves into a normal everyday user's shoes, for > example a > >> Windows user, before simply shooting Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal down. > >> > >> Do not forget that Canonical(Mark Shuttleworth) is striving to produce a > >> world class desktop Operating System designed to compete with the likes > of > >> Mac OS and Windows 7. The intention of Ubuntu is to provide an easy to > use > >> desktop environment, for everyday users(not the likes of us!!), > conducive to > >> a comfortable working environment. Note also that Canonical's strategy > was > >> to remove the notebook(NBR) version of Ubuntu. This happened because the > >> desktop version actually provides the functionality of the notebook > version. > >> My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an interface > which > >> will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook, Netbook, > Notepad(ipad > >> type) or Mobile phone. This ability should make the interface very > >> attractive as the same user interface paradigm will be used throughout > the > >> whole spectrum of hardware platforms, making it less confusing for the > >> everyday user. The Unity interface is also designed with multi-touch in > mind > >> and it must be experienced in this format and not just with the mouse > point > >> and click interaction. My opinion on 11.04 Natty Narwhal, is to give it > a > >> chance. It is as yet in it's infancy and only time will tell how it will > >> mature. It is up to us to try and give feedback and help it grow into a > >> world class OS. > >> > >> As for myself. I have installed Natty Narwhal on my notebook, I will not > >> be installing on my desktop as yet. Initially via an upgrade which went > very > >> well until I decided to try and get my desktop cube back(I will not be > >> trying that again any time soon!!) and lost the whole interface in the > >> process. I have finally, after an interim full install on just my root > >> partition which also left me without an interface, performed a full > clean > >> install. By the way I opted to use btrfs instead of ext4 and will let > you > >> know how that goes in the future. I must admit that my first impression > of > >> Unity is that I do not like it at all, keeping in mind that I am using > mouse > >> point and click interaction with Unity. I really hate the side bar > however I > >> believe the idea here is to make it easily adaptable to a mobile phone > >> screen. Otherwise my first good impression is that the graphics seem to > be > >> smoother then before(It could be just me trying to justify my using > Unity). > >> > >> Anyway I have ranted and raved enough, .... please go easy on me. > >> > >> Alan. > >> > >> PS: I think we may see the rise of another Ubuntu flavour after this > move > >> to Unity. In the vain of Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu ... etc. Something > like > >> Oubuntu(Original Ubuntu)? Maybe? > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 20:07 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: > >> > >> that's exactly what i was afraid of and why I haven't upgraded yet..I > >> might just move to arch for my work laptop aswell > >> > >> On 1 May 2011 18:07, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt> wrote: > >> > >> I upgraded but I'm totally underwhelmed by Natty's Unity AND the Gnome3 > >> shell. It seems that these interfaces both try to aim for the lowest > common > >> denominator. I don't consider this to be a step forward at all. I like a > >> system that provides me with the ability to tweak it exactly as I want, > not > >> a system that is fixed in what someone considered the best option for > >> everyone. > >> > >> > >> Ramon Casha > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1 May 2011 12:20, Keith Vassallo <kei...@me.com> wrote: > >> > >> Watch out upgrading if you have an ATI graphics card. Major problems on > >> some models. > >> > >> Wouldn't boot on my sister's laptop > >> > >> K > >> > >> On 01 May 2011, at 11:01, Andrew Cilia wrote: > >> > >> The sane,sober,sensible aviators have spoken. If it works, don't fix it. > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 09:10 +0200, Paul Morley wrote: > >> > >> Yes I totally agree Daniel, the big thing about Linux is choice and the > >> ability to tweak. > >> I am still using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but tweaked with: > >> > >> The Kernel is 2.6.38-8 patched for lucid > >> Nividia graphic kernel is 260.19.44 > >> LibreOffice 3.3.2 > >> Thunderbird 3.1.10 with Charemel 1.4.1 theme. > >> Rhythmbox and Evolution removed, and lots more minor changes. > >> > >> So will be staying away from Unity 11.04 as I'm happy with my current > >> setup. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> > >> On 05/01/2011 08:31 AM, Daniel wrote: > >> > >> In my opinion in 11.04 its not the googling and tweaking which is a > >> problem (although when googling I don't find all the answers !!!) but it > is > >> going to limit our freedom in tweaking the system. If it becomes like > >> windows where we can just change a few flashy things but not more, then > the > >> community will look for alternatives....... > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Anyone installed 11.04? I'm kind of apprehensive about the new interface > >> breaking my carefully assembled linux box.... last upgrade, my scanner > >> didn't work and it needed a day of googling and tweaking to get it > >> moving again... > >> > >> Joseph > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > MLUG-list@linux.org.mt > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >
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