I'll wait a bit for the moment... in the meantime, trying unity-2d in
virtualbox on 10.10.... seems to work, though I don't like the
interface... My 2p worth is that Ubuntu should keep the Gnome desktop
and offer Unity as an option.....
On 05/11/2011 01:54 PM, Anton Xuereb wrote:
Im not bothered with the new interface - I didn't like it so I didn't
upgrade on my laptop.
I updated to gnome 3 on my arch linux and i can work with it fine.
Quirky and hard to configure but it works for now. If I don't want
that I can move to something else completely. KDE, elightenment etc..
After all this has always been the power of OSS - don't like it ?
Change it /fork it
On 11 May 2011 13:47, Gregory Smirnov <greg...@2x.com
<mailto:greg...@2x.com>> wrote:
It is not only "Canonical is trying to produce an interface which will
work anywhere". It is global movement, see Google Android and HP
WebOS. In few years old well known Desktop environment will remain
only for particular tasks. For example, I cannot imagine CAD/CAE moved
to new technologies today. But for home user and SMEs it is right
direction. As with any change you just need to get used :)
--
Gregory Smirnov
On 2 May 2011 14:12, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt
<mailto:ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt>> wrote:
> "My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an
interface
> which will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook,
Netbook,
> Notepad(ipad type) or Mobile phone."
>
> Yes, that was their mistake. It's like "You can have any colour
as long as
> it's black", only this applies not just to colour but to shape
and size too.
> It is IMPOSSIBLE to have an interface that works well for every
device on
> the planet. My mobile phone with its small multitouch screen is
not the same
> as the dual-screen high resolution display on my laptop. What
they've come
> up with is an interface that looks and feels like crap on all
devices.
>
> Ramon Casha
>
>
> On 2 May 2011 10:46, Alan Muscat <alan.p.mus...@gmail.com
<mailto:alan.p.mus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am going to take the risk of evangelising to the wrong
>> people(yourselves). Please excuse me for doing this but I feel
that I must
>> point out a glaring fact which everyone seems to be missing. I
must ask all
>> of you to put yourselves into a normal everyday user's shoes,
for example a
>> Windows user, before simply shooting Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal
down.
>>
>> Do not forget that Canonical(Mark Shuttleworth) is striving to
produce a
>> world class desktop Operating System designed to compete with
the likes of
>> Mac OS and Windows 7. The intention of Ubuntu is to provide an
easy to use
>> desktop environment, for everyday users(not the likes of us!!),
conducive to
>> a comfortable working environment. Note also that Canonical's
strategy was
>> to remove the notebook(NBR) version of Ubuntu. This happened
because the
>> desktop version actually provides the functionality of the
notebook version.
>> My opinion on this is that Canonical is trying to produce an
interface which
>> will work anywhere, be it a Desktop, Laptop, Notebook, Netbook,
Notepad(ipad
>> type) or Mobile phone. This ability should make the interface very
>> attractive as the same user interface paradigm will be used
throughout the
>> whole spectrum of hardware platforms, making it less confusing
for the
>> everyday user. The Unity interface is also designed with
multi-touch in mind
>> and it must be experienced in this format and not just with the
mouse point
>> and click interaction. My opinion on 11.04 Natty Narwhal, is to
give it a
>> chance. It is as yet in it's infancy and only time will tell
how it will
>> mature. It is up to us to try and give feedback and help it
grow into a
>> world class OS.
>>
>> As for myself. I have installed Natty Narwhal on my notebook, I
will not
>> be installing on my desktop as yet. Initially via an upgrade
which went very
>> well until I decided to try and get my desktop cube back(I will
not be
>> trying that again any time soon!!) and lost the whole interface
in the
>> process. I have finally, after an interim full install on just
my root
>> partition which also left me without an interface, performed a
full clean
>> install. By the way I opted to use btrfs instead of ext4 and
will let you
>> know how that goes in the future. I must admit that my first
impression of
>> Unity is that I do not like it at all, keeping in mind that I
am using mouse
>> point and click interaction with Unity. I really hate the side
bar however I
>> believe the idea here is to make it easily adaptable to a
mobile phone
>> screen. Otherwise my first good impression is that the graphics
seem to be
>> smoother then before(It could be just me trying to justify my
using Unity).
>>
>> Anyway I have ranted and raved enough, .... please go easy on me.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> PS: I think we may see the rise of another Ubuntu flavour after
this move
>> to Unity. In the vain of Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu ... etc.
Something like
>> Oubuntu(Original Ubuntu)? Maybe?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 20:07 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote:
>>
>> that's exactly what i was afraid of and why I haven't upgraded
yet..I
>> might just move to arch for my work laptop aswell
>>
>> On 1 May 2011 18:07, Ramon Casha <ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt
<mailto:ramon.ca...@linux.org.mt>> wrote:
>>
>> I upgraded but I'm totally underwhelmed by Natty's Unity AND
the Gnome3
>> shell. It seems that these interfaces both try to aim for the
lowest common
>> denominator. I don't consider this to be a step forward at all.
I like a
>> system that provides me with the ability to tweak it exactly as
I want, not
>> a system that is fixed in what someone considered the best
option for
>> everyone.
>>
>>
>> Ramon Casha
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 May 2011 12:20, Keith Vassallo <kei...@me.com
<mailto:kei...@me.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Watch out upgrading if you have an ATI graphics card. Major
problems on
>> some models.
>>
>> Wouldn't boot on my sister's laptop
>>
>> K
>>
>> On 01 May 2011, at 11:01, Andrew Cilia wrote:
>>
>> The sane,sober,sensible aviators have spoken. If it works,
don't fix it.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 09:10 +0200, Paul Morley wrote:
>>
>> Yes I totally agree Daniel, the big thing about Linux is choice
and the
>> ability to tweak.
>> I am still using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but tweaked with:
>>
>> The Kernel is 2.6.38-8 patched for lucid
>> Nividia graphic kernel is 260.19.44
>> LibreOffice 3.3.2
>> Thunderbird 3.1.10 with Charemel 1.4.1 theme.
>> Rhythmbox and Evolution removed, and lots more minor changes.
>>
>> So will be staying away from Unity 11.04 as I'm happy with my
current
>> setup.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/01/2011 08:31 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion in 11.04 its not the googling and tweaking which is a
>> problem (although when googling I don't find all the answers
!!!) but it is
>> going to limit our freedom in tweaking the system. If it
becomes like
>> windows where we can just change a few flashy things but not
more, then the
>> community will look for alternatives.......
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Anyone installed 11.04? I'm kind of apprehensive about the new
interface
>> breaking my carefully assembled linux box.... last upgrade, my
scanner
>> didn't work and it needed a day of googling and tweaking to get it
>> moving again...
>>
>> Joseph
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