On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jean-Francois Theroux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Stefan Monnier <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> > I feel your pain. I had been looking at merging my ipod and my cell >> > phone into one device. I bought a 3GS iphone. That phone is amazing >> > and kudos to Apple to developing such a great device. BUT, you need >> > itune to put music on it. And that's only available to Windows >> > and OSX. >> >> Yes, there's a word for that in English: defective. >> >> > Luckily for me, I have a Windows gaming rig. >> >> That's an odd use of "lucky". >> >> > Hopefully our wonderful hackers will find a way around >> > Apple's shenanigans. >> >> Instead, hopefully, you'll realize at some point that you're hurting >> yourself and that you had better buy another product, one that doesn't >> work against your freedom. > > I'd like to develop this further. Freedom does matter a lot to me in some > cases. I want to be able to criticize my government, I don't want to be > thown into jail for no reason, etc. I want my data to be stored in open > formats. That's the stuff that matters to me. The fact that I need a > software than runs on Windows to manage a device I picked and bought, > totally irrelevant. And it is to most people who left their mom's basement. > Do you care that your Videotron/Bell cable devices are closed? Probably not. > > For a living, I manage different types of Unix systems. Some open, some > proprietary. Do I care? No. Does anyone in my team does? No way in hell. > > People should really stop seeing all this as religion. Once you start > working at the enterprise level, you soon realize you have no choice but to > use proprietary software and hardware. Learn to live with it or stop using > technology altogether ;) >
JF, That was totally uncalled for, you overstepped here. A lot of the people on this list, and I know a lot of them personally well, as I know you, manage both types of systems, but most of us do not hold your opinions expressed above, dare I say with you as the exception we all value freedom more. When it comes to work and career we are sometimes forced to get the propriety thing shoved down our throats. Some of us are luckier than others and can afford to pick freedom first, most of us not so much. But when it comes to personal choice, to something that I chose to use, and I will pay for it not the business, something that I control, we will choose the freedom model. I really hated the insulting way you called every idealist "living in his mother's basement", the fact that some people chose to forgo financial gain to achieve a certain political and technological gain and thus get stereotyped has nothing to do with it. If I remember correctly, most of what you know would not have been possible if it wasn't for the GPL and the FSF. Please do not confuse personal issues, and in the future I expect better from everyone Thank you -nick _______________________________________________ mlug mailing list [email protected] https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca
