well..i guess everyone is busy too, right? though i'm not the one 
who raised the question, thanks for your replies to my postings..do 
appreciate it :-)

Vian, since you're still in Pre-MM program and seems that you're 
thinking where to move on further, please allow me to give you some 
questions that may help you to decide better.

First, why do you want to take further degree? why MM? why MBA? why 
not other degrees? do you really have to take further degree?
Second, what do you want to do as your career? 
Third, how your further degree will help you to get your dream 
career?

In addition to the money that you'll spend, you will invest your 
time as well and time is money too. Be true to yourself..make sure 
that you know what you're going to do. Please don't waste your time 
and money just to have one or two degrees that you don't exactly 
know why you take it and what to do with it.

if you're still interested to find out more, i'll be more than happy 
to share my opinions through our private emails.

hope it helps. thanks.

andy

--- In [email protected], Gatot Soemartono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh… goodness, I don’t want to get involved in this never 
ending debate, 
> MM v. MBA.
> 
> I have been swamped with SO many things to do here THAT I may not 
be 
> able to address this issue satisfactorily. My efforts to argue 
should 
> be put on this, in order to come to a conclusion that in practice 
there 
> is no significant distinction between the two! That’s something 
> unlikely for me at this time. 
> 
> However, let me briefly suggest the following.
> 
> I have visited many places around the globe and of course 
experienced 
> myself with doing courses at top MBA schools. I never found any 
> significant differences as to Andy’s suggestion. We may be able 
to make 
> a convincing argument that MM is prone to emphasize on theoretical 
> aspects. Besides, as the name suggests, MM seems more general in 
the 
> sense that it may be applied to all fields, and not merely in 
business 
> as MBA does. 
> 
> Anyhow in the end, no matter how strong our reasons are, we may 
have 
> come to the same conclusion that no practical distinction could be 
made 
> between the two. Why should we do the two then? For sure, securing 
two 
> degrees, MM and MBA, looks more prestigious than having a degree 
only, 
> either MM or MBA.
> 
> 
> GS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >----Original Message----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Mar 17, 2006 10:56 
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >
> >Gatot, if i'm not mistaken, MM degree that you mentioned is a 
> >program between MBA in Kellog and Master of Engineering 
Management 
> >from McCormick and the degree is called "Master of Management & 
> >Engineering"..is it?
> >
> >of course either in MM or MBA courses are based on theories..but 
if 
> >we compare the curriculum, let's say between MMUGM and top MBA 
> >schools, especially for the electives courses..then most likely 
> >we'll find that in MBA program case study represents bigger part 
of 
> >the syllabus than in MM program. having said that, students are 
> >expected to study the theories by themselves, bringing out the 
> >knowledge into classroom and group discussion while their 
professors 
> >guide the discussions and expecting questions from 
students..instead 
> >of professors reading the textbooks in front of the classroom 
while 
> >students taking notes or sending out sms during classes. 
> >
> >so in my opinion, MM and MBA are two similar degrees with similar 
> >contents but still they are not the same thing. depends on the 
> >objective, studying at MM or MBA could give a different learning 
> >experience and market value to somebody.
> >
> >actually, Vian, what is the purpose of your question? maybe if 
you 
> >could tell us what exactly do you want to know, then we can 
narrow 
> >down our discussions further..
> >
> >hope it helps..thanks..
> >
> >andy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >
> >--- In [email protected], Gatot Soemartono <gsoemart@> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Barangkali, bedanya antara MM dan MBA, bukan yang satu 
Indonesia 
> >dan 
> >> lainnya asing. 
> >> 
> >> The Kellogg School of Management di Northwestern Univ. (di mana 
> >> Phillip Kotler mengajar) memberikan gelar MM, serta MBA (1 atau 
2 
> >> tahun). MIT menggunakan nama Sloan School of Management, tetapi 
> >> memberikan gelar MBA. 
> >> 
> >> Keduanya menekankan teori (tidak ada yang lebih banyak), dan 
> >keduanya 
> >> juga menggunakan kasus-kasus! Nampaknya, pertanyaan ini lebih 
> >kepada 
> >> apa bedanya Surakarta dan Solo... 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >----Original Message----
> >> >From: ultra_chilled@
> >> >Date: Mar 16, 2006 17:43 
> >> >To: <[email protected]>
> >> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >> >
> >> >Vian, I think, in general, MM seems to still put more emphasis 
on 
> >> >learning the theories itself while MBA is more on applying the 
> >> >theories through case study approach..
> >> >
> >> >andy
> >> >http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >> >
> >> >>   On 2/10/06, andi sumange <enggang97@> wrote:   bedanya 
banyak 
> >> >tapi yang pasti MM titel dari Indonesia MBA titel dari luar 
negeri
> >> >> 
> >> >> vian adzhar <vian.adzhar@> wrote:   bapak ibu...om tante.....
> >> >> 
> >> >> mohon sharing pendapat.........apa sih beda antara MBA dan 
MM?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Thank s,
> >> >> Vian
> >> >> 
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