dah basi..karena sudah ada jawaban yang konkrit atau karena tidak 
pernah ada jawaban yang memuaskan??? 

please note that this question came from somebody who's still in Pre-
MM program and I guess pertanyaan ini sudah seharusnya selalu muncul 
saat seseorang akan melanjutkan studinya di bidang manajemen. 
Haruskah MM, MBA, dual degree atau master2 lainnya yang sejenis? 
atau pertanyaan yg lebih detail lagi seperti:

kenapa MM atau MBA bukan Master of Applied Finance (untuk yg 
berminat dengan Finance) misalnya?
kenapa MMUGM bukan MMUI misalnya?
kenapa MMUGM bukan MBA di NUS misalnya?
kenapa MBA di Harvard bukan MIM di Thunderbird misalnya?
atau untuk yg ingin berkarir di bidang Finance,kenapa tidak invest 
money dan waktu untuk pass CFA dalam waktu 3 tahun atau ambil 
sertifikasi lainnya sambil tetap bekerja misalnya? 

bukankah pertanyaan2 tersebut dapat muncul karena adanya 
pertanyaan "apa sih bedanya antara MM dengan MBA?"?

andy

--- In [email protected], "Rahmad Wibowo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Betul Mas Gatot..... Dah Basi....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of
> Gatot Soemartono
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> 
> 
> Oh… goodness, I don’t want to get involved in this never 
ending debate, 
> MM v. MBA.
> 
> I have been swamped with SO many things to do here THAT I may not 
be 
> able to address this issue satisfactorily. My efforts to argue 
should 
> be put on this, in order to come to a conclusion that in practice 
there 
> is no significant distinction between the two! That’s something 
> unlikely for me at this time. 
> 
> However, let me briefly suggest the following.
> 
> I have visited many places around the globe and of course 
experienced 
> myself with doing courses at top MBA schools. I never found any 
> significant differences as to Andy’s suggestion. We may be able 
to make 
> a convincing argument that MM is prone to emphasize on theoretical 
> aspects. Besides, as the name suggests, MM seems more general in 
the 
> sense that it may be applied to all fields, and not merely in 
business 
> as MBA does. 
> 
> Anyhow in the end, no matter how strong our reasons are, we may 
have 
> come to the same conclusion that no practical distinction could be 
made 
> between the two. Why should we do the two then? For sure, securing 
two 
> degrees, MM and MBA, looks more prestigious than having a degree 
only, 
> either MM or MBA.
> 
> 
> GS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >----Original Message----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Mar 17, 2006 10:56 
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >
> >Gatot, if i'm not mistaken, MM degree that you mentioned is a 
> >program between MBA in Kellog and Master of Engineering 
Management 
> >from McCormick and the degree is called "Master of Management & 
> >Engineering"..is it?
> >
> >of course either in MM or MBA courses are based on theories..but 
if 
> >we compare the curriculum, let's say between MMUGM and top MBA 
> >schools, especially for the electives courses..then most likely 
> >we'll find that in MBA program case study represents bigger part 
of 
> >the syllabus than in MM program. having said that, students are 
> >expected to study the theories by themselves, bringing out the 
> >knowledge into classroom and group discussion while their 
professors 
> >guide the discussions and expecting questions from 
students..instead 
> >of professors reading the textbooks in front of the classroom 
while 
> >students taking notes or sending out sms during classes. 
> >
> >so in my opinion, MM and MBA are two similar degrees with similar 
> >contents but still they are not the same thing. depends on the 
> >objective, studying at MM or MBA could give a different learning 
> >experience and market value to somebody.
> >
> >actually, Vian, what is the purpose of your question? maybe if 
you 
> >could tell us what exactly do you want to know, then we can 
narrow 
> >down our discussions further..
> >
> >hope it helps..thanks..
> >
> >andy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >
> >--- In [email protected], Gatot Soemartono <gsoemart@> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Barangkali, bedanya antara MM dan MBA, bukan yang satu 
Indonesia 
> >dan 
> >> lainnya asing. 
> >> 
> >> The Kellogg School of Management di Northwestern Univ. (di mana 
> >> Phillip Kotler mengajar) memberikan gelar MM, serta MBA (1 atau 
2 
> >> tahun). MIT menggunakan nama Sloan School of Management, tetapi 
> >> memberikan gelar MBA. 
> >> 
> >> Keduanya menekankan teori (tidak ada yang lebih banyak), dan 
> >keduanya 
> >> juga menggunakan kasus-kasus! Nampaknya, pertanyaan ini lebih 
> >kepada 
> >> apa bedanya Surakarta dan Solo... 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >----Original Message----
> >> >From: ultra_chilled@
> >> >Date: Mar 16, 2006 17:43 
> >> >To: <[email protected]>
> >> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >> >
> >> >Vian, I think, in general, MM seems to still put more emphasis 
on 
> >> >learning the theories itself while MBA is more on applying the 
> >> >theories through case study approach..
> >> >
> >> >andy
> >> >http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >> >
> >> >>   On 2/10/06, andi sumange <enggang97@> wrote:   bedanya 
banyak 
> >> >tapi yang pasti MM titel dari Indonesia MBA titel dari luar 
negeri
> >> >> 
> >> >> vian adzhar <vian.adzhar@> wrote:   bapak ibu...om tante.....
> >> >> 
> >> >> mohon sharing pendapat.........apa sih beda antara MBA dan 
MM?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Thank s,
> >> >> Vian
> >> >> 
> >> >>     
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of 
new 
> >and 
> >> >used cars online search now   
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
> >> >> *** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>   SPONSORED LINKS 
> >> >>         Undergraduate business schools   Business school 
> >essay   
> >> >Business school and education     Top business schools   Best 
> >> >business schools   Business school minnesota 
> >> >>     
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS 
> >> >> 
> >> >>     
> >> >>     Visit your group "mm-ugm" on the web.
> >> >>    
> >> >>     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >> >>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> >>    
> >> >>     Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms 
of 
> >> >Service.
> >> >> 
> >> >>     
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   
> >> >>   
> >> >>   
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
> >> >> *** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>   SPONSORED LINKS 
> >> >>         Undergraduate business schools   Business school 
> >essay   
> >> >Business school and education     Top business schools   Best 
> >> >business schools   Business school minnesota 
> >> >>     
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS 
> >> >> 
> >> >>     
> >> >>     Visit your group "mm-ugm" on the web.
> >> >>     
> >> >>     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >> >>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>     
> >> >>     Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms 
of 
> >> >Service. 
> >> >> 
> >> >>     
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >>   
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>                 
> >> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the 
> >all 
> >> >new Yahoo! Security Centre.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
> >> >*** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
> >*** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
> *** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>








Sudahkah Anda mengunjungi http://www.kagama-mm.com/ hari ini?
*** THE TRADITION OF QUANTITY (Oops. We meant QUALITY) *** 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mm-ugm/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 


Kirim email ke