wow, thats rude, you need to understand how to teach people and the
point of forums. thanks for your help but please do not respond to any
more of my questions.
i have been learning cf for 2 years and just getting into model glue
and i have never had anyone make such a patronizing immature response



On Sep 12, 12:54 pm, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard,
> Why don't you just give it a try?  I can bet you $1 that 99% of the
> developers on this list have all learned a ton from here and other web
> resources, but at some point they had to just dive in and DO it!  Fire up
> some of the sample applications that are out there and tweak and test, let
> it break and look at the debug info.  You will never achieve a deep
> understanding having others tell you what the answer is, only by figuring it
> out yourself.  I can tell you from experience that you will feel better
> about learning than getting spoon fed!
>
> The last advice I can offer is to take some of these frameworks in pieces.
>  No need to tackle AOP in coldspring right away, or some of the heavy
> skull-concepts of OO programming.  Pick one thing, focus on it till you
> understand, then move forward.  Many of these concepts I did not understand
> until I came to a point in application development where it was applicable,
> then it was light *OHH* and a light bulb went off.
>
> Hope that helps =)
>
> Chris Peterson
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hi chris
>
> > yes that makes perfect sense thanks, sorry i just have one more
> > question though:
>
> > in reference to your example, i understand the property name = target,
> > and the relative path and the remote method names, i am also looking
> > now into bean factories and sure ill be fine with that, but what is
> > the purpose of the serviceName and value = RemoteUserService - and how
> > is this used as in my mind i need to work out the difference between
> > that and the bean id
>
> > also at what point does the proxy object get created, is it a
> > temporary object that is only created when the application starts
>
> > i really appreciate your help on this chris
>
> > richard
>
> > On Sep 12, 11:07 am, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Lets back up 1 step.  Normally Ajax would make requests to either html or
> > > cfc's in order to get bits of data.  Many service-tier objects return
> > this
> > > type of data, so by creating a 'proxy' object (which sits in the web root
> > > and is directly accessible from the internet, you are providing a way for
> > > the web to reach *past* your event's, directly into your service tier, to
> > > get at those atomic functions with their data returns.  jsmx is client
> > side,
> > > so when making a request to your proxied userService object, in my
> > example
> > > you would point jsmx at /ajax/remoteUserService.cfc?method=doesUserExist
>
> > > Does that make sense?  All the proxy for is to *proxy* requests past
> > > model-glue's event structure to your underlying architecture.
>
> > > Chris Peterson
>
> > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:22 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi chris
>
> > > > how would you call the methods in the remote proxy object from the
> > > > client? when using jsmx we usually call cfc's by stating a path to it
> > > > on the server and the stating what function to call inside that cfc
>
> > > > thanks for your help
>
> > > > On Sep 11, 3:16 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > excellent, thanks for your help chris.
>
> > > > > Chris Peterson wrote:
> > > > > > exactly right.  You define which methods you want proxied here, and
> > > > > > coldspring will physically create the proxy .cfc file that you will
> > > > make
> > > > > > requests too, and will only implement the methods you define to
> > make
> > > > > > available.
> > > > > > Chris
>
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > thanks chris,
>
> > > > > > > this is understandable, except why is it that you are passing in
> > the
> > > > > > > paramaters into that remoteUserService bean. do they state which
> > > > > > > methods etc... can be used from the userService bean - so you are
> > > > > > > saying that the remote proxy object can only use the methods and
> > > > > > > paramters that you specify here?
>
> > > > > > > do i have this right?
>
> > > > > > > thanks for your help chris
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 11, 1:35 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi
>
> > > > > > > > we want to use jsmx in our software and just want to know if
> > you
> > > > guys
> > > > > > > > would do it in the following way:
>
> > > > > > > > jsmx must call a function in a cfc whereby that function would
> > also
> > > > > > > > send back a message to the client after it has finished
> > processing.
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > we was thinking that when we need to call a cfc function
> > through
> > > > jsmx
> > > > > > > > then we would call a function directly in the controller which
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > use the beans, service, dao, and gw in order to complete its
> > task
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > then pass a message back to the client.
>
> > > > > > > > this method completely bypasses the event handlers as it is our
> > > > > > > > understanding that event handlers only listen to the url when
> > the
> > > > page
> > > > > > > > is refreshed - and of course jsmx is an ajax call that
> > therefore
> > > > > > > > doesnt refresh the page or use the url
>
> > > > > > > > does this sound right or would there be a better way?
>
> > > > > > > > thanks
>
> > > > > > > > richard
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama)
>
> > > --
> > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do
> > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama)
>
> --
> Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do
> what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama)
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