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Dont leave, I am sure your contributions are valuable! MD On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Vicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to say for the first time since joining, I have been thinking of > leaving this list due to the constant clutter in my inbox over the last > week. Forums are for guidance. They're not a personal tutor. > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:09 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> wow, thats rude, you need to understand how to teach people and the >> point of forums. thanks for your help but please do not respond to any >> more of my questions. >> i have been learning cf for 2 years and just getting into model glue >> and i have never had anyone make such a patronizing immature response >> >> >> >> On Sep 12, 12:54 pm, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Richard, >> > Why don't you just give it a try? I can bet you $1 that 99% of the >> > developers on this list have all learned a ton from here and other web >> > resources, but at some point they had to just dive in and DO it! Fire >> > up >> > some of the sample applications that are out there and tweak and test, >> > let >> > it break and look at the debug info. You will never achieve a deep >> > understanding having others tell you what the answer is, only by >> > figuring it >> > out yourself. I can tell you from experience that you will feel better >> > about learning than getting spoon fed! >> > >> > The last advice I can offer is to take some of these frameworks in >> > pieces. >> > No need to tackle AOP in coldspring right away, or some of the heavy >> > skull-concepts of OO programming. Pick one thing, focus on it till you >> > understand, then move forward. Many of these concepts I did not >> > understand >> > until I came to a point in application development where it was >> > applicable, >> > then it was light *OHH* and a light bulb went off. >> > >> > Hope that helps =) >> > >> > Chris Peterson >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > hi chris >> > >> > > yes that makes perfect sense thanks, sorry i just have one more >> > > question though: >> > >> > > in reference to your example, i understand the property name = target, >> > > and the relative path and the remote method names, i am also looking >> > > now into bean factories and sure ill be fine with that, but what is >> > > the purpose of the serviceName and value = RemoteUserService - and how >> > > is this used as in my mind i need to work out the difference between >> > > that and the bean id >> > >> > > also at what point does the proxy object get created, is it a >> > > temporary object that is only created when the application starts >> > >> > > i really appreciate your help on this chris >> > >> > > richard >> > >> > > On Sep 12, 11:07 am, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > Lets back up 1 step. Normally Ajax would make requests to either >> > > > html or >> > > > cfc's in order to get bits of data. Many service-tier objects >> > > > return >> > > this >> > > > type of data, so by creating a 'proxy' object (which sits in the web >> > > > root >> > > > and is directly accessible from the internet, you are providing a >> > > > way for >> > > > the web to reach *past* your event's, directly into your service >> > > > tier, to >> > > > get at those atomic functions with their data returns. jsmx is >> > > > client >> > > side, >> > > > so when making a request to your proxied userService object, in my >> > > example >> > > > you would point jsmx at >> > > > /ajax/remoteUserService.cfc?method=doesUserExist >> > >> > > > Does that make sense? All the proxy for is to *proxy* requests past >> > > > model-glue's event structure to your underlying architecture. >> > >> > > > Chris Peterson >> > >> > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:22 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > Hi chris >> > >> > > > > how would you call the methods in the remote proxy object from the >> > > > > client? when using jsmx we usually call cfc's by stating a path to >> > > > > it >> > > > > on the server and the stating what function to call inside that >> > > > > cfc >> > >> > > > > thanks for your help >> > >> > > > > On Sep 11, 3:16 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > > excellent, thanks for your help chris. >> > >> > > > > > Chris Peterson wrote: >> > > > > > > exactly right. You define which methods you want proxied >> > > > > > > here, and >> > > > > > > coldspring will physically create the proxy .cfc file that you >> > > > > > > will >> > > > > make >> > > > > > > requests too, and will only implement the methods you define >> > > > > > > to >> > > make >> > > > > > > available. >> > > > > > > Chris >> > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > thanks chris, >> > >> > > > > > > > this is understandable, except why is it that you are >> > > > > > > > passing in >> > > the >> > > > > > > > paramaters into that remoteUserService bean. do they state >> > > > > > > > which >> > > > > > > > methods etc... can be used from the userService bean - so >> > > > > > > > you are >> > > > > > > > saying that the remote proxy object can only use the methods >> > > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > paramters that you specify here? >> > >> > > > > > > > do i have this right? >> > >> > > > > > > > thanks for your help chris >> > >> > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 1:35 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > Hi >> > >> > > > > > > > > we want to use jsmx in our software and just want to know >> > > > > > > > > if >> > > you >> > > > > guys >> > > > > > > > > would do it in the following way: >> > >> > > > > > > > > jsmx must call a function in a cfc whereby that function >> > > > > > > > > would >> > > also >> > > > > > > > > send back a message to the client after it has finished >> > > processing. >> > > > > so >> > > > > > > > > we was thinking that when we need to call a cfc function >> > > through >> > > > > jsmx >> > > > > > > > > then we would call a function directly in the controller >> > > > > > > > > which >> > > > > would >> > > > > > > > > use the beans, service, dao, and gw in order to complete >> > > > > > > > > its >> > > task >> > > > > and >> > > > > > > > > then pass a message back to the client. >> > >> > > > > > > > > this method completely bypasses the event handlers as it >> > > > > > > > > is our >> > > > > > > > > understanding that event handlers only listen to the url >> > > > > > > > > when >> > > the >> > > > > page >> > > > > > > > > is refreshed - and of course jsmx is an ajax call that >> > > therefore >> > > > > > > > > doesnt refresh the page or use the url >> > >> > > > > > > > > does this sound right or would there be a better way? >> > >> > > > > > > > > thanks >> > >> > > > > > > > > richard >> > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell >> > > > > > > me how >> > > to >> > > > > do >> > > > > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how >> > > > to do >> > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> > >> > -- >> > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to >> > do >> > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> >> >> > -- Mark Drew Blog: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "model-glue" group. 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