I have to say for the first time since joining, I have been thinking of leaving this list due to the constant clutter in my inbox over the last week. Forums are for guidance. They're not a personal tutor.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:09 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wow, thats rude, you need to understand how to teach people and the > point of forums. thanks for your help but please do not respond to any > more of my questions. > i have been learning cf for 2 years and just getting into model glue > and i have never had anyone make such a patronizing immature response > > > > On Sep 12, 12:54 pm, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard, > > Why don't you just give it a try? I can bet you $1 that 99% of the > > developers on this list have all learned a ton from here and other web > > resources, but at some point they had to just dive in and DO it! Fire up > > some of the sample applications that are out there and tweak and test, > let > > it break and look at the debug info. You will never achieve a deep > > understanding having others tell you what the answer is, only by figuring > it > > out yourself. I can tell you from experience that you will feel better > > about learning than getting spoon fed! > > > > The last advice I can offer is to take some of these frameworks in > pieces. > > No need to tackle AOP in coldspring right away, or some of the heavy > > skull-concepts of OO programming. Pick one thing, focus on it till you > > understand, then move forward. Many of these concepts I did not > understand > > until I came to a point in application development where it was > applicable, > > then it was light *OHH* and a light bulb went off. > > > > Hope that helps =) > > > > Chris Peterson > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hi chris > > > > > yes that makes perfect sense thanks, sorry i just have one more > > > question though: > > > > > in reference to your example, i understand the property name = target, > > > and the relative path and the remote method names, i am also looking > > > now into bean factories and sure ill be fine with that, but what is > > > the purpose of the serviceName and value = RemoteUserService - and how > > > is this used as in my mind i need to work out the difference between > > > that and the bean id > > > > > also at what point does the proxy object get created, is it a > > > temporary object that is only created when the application starts > > > > > i really appreciate your help on this chris > > > > > richard > > > > > On Sep 12, 11:07 am, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Lets back up 1 step. Normally Ajax would make requests to either > html or > > > > cfc's in order to get bits of data. Many service-tier objects return > > > this > > > > type of data, so by creating a 'proxy' object (which sits in the web > root > > > > and is directly accessible from the internet, you are providing a way > for > > > > the web to reach *past* your event's, directly into your service > tier, to > > > > get at those atomic functions with their data returns. jsmx is > client > > > side, > > > > so when making a request to your proxied userService object, in my > > > example > > > > you would point jsmx at > /ajax/remoteUserService.cfc?method=doesUserExist > > > > > > Does that make sense? All the proxy for is to *proxy* requests past > > > > model-glue's event structure to your underlying architecture. > > > > > > Chris Peterson > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:22 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi chris > > > > > > > how would you call the methods in the remote proxy object from the > > > > > client? when using jsmx we usually call cfc's by stating a path to > it > > > > > on the server and the stating what function to call inside that cfc > > > > > > > thanks for your help > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 3:16 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > excellent, thanks for your help chris. > > > > > > > > Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > exactly right. You define which methods you want proxied here, > and > > > > > > > coldspring will physically create the proxy .cfc file that you > will > > > > > make > > > > > > > requests too, and will only implement the methods you define to > > > make > > > > > > > available. > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks chris, > > > > > > > > > > this is understandable, except why is it that you are passing > in > > > the > > > > > > > > paramaters into that remoteUserService bean. do they state > which > > > > > > > > methods etc... can be used from the userService bean - so you > are > > > > > > > > saying that the remote proxy object can only use the methods > and > > > > > > > > paramters that you specify here? > > > > > > > > > > do i have this right? > > > > > > > > > > thanks for your help chris > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 1:35 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > we want to use jsmx in our software and just want to know > if > > > you > > > > > guys > > > > > > > > > would do it in the following way: > > > > > > > > > > > jsmx must call a function in a cfc whereby that function > would > > > also > > > > > > > > > send back a message to the client after it has finished > > > processing. > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > we was thinking that when we need to call a cfc function > > > through > > > > > jsmx > > > > > > > > > then we would call a function directly in the controller > which > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > use the beans, service, dao, and gw in order to complete > its > > > task > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > then pass a message back to the client. > > > > > > > > > > > this method completely bypasses the event handlers as it is > our > > > > > > > > > understanding that event handlers only listen to the url > when > > > the > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > is refreshed - and of course jsmx is an ajax call that > > > therefore > > > > > > > > > doesnt refresh the page or use the url > > > > > > > > > > > does this sound right or would there be a better way? > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > richard > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me > how > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) > > > > > > -- > > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how > to do > > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) > > > > -- > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "model-glue" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/model-glue?hl=en For more about Model-Glue, check http://www.model-glue.com . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
