Vicky, you can also use digest mode so that you only get a max of 1 email per day; if that's your thing.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Chris Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Richard, > It was not my intent to be rude, but to share my experience of learning > better by doing than asking. > > Best of luck > > Chris > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I dip into this list.. that is why I mark my posts with tags so they >> are nicely separated from my "main" email. >> >> Dont leave, I am sure your contributions are valuable! >> >> MD >> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Vicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I have to say for the first time since joining, I have been thinking of >> > leaving this list due to the constant clutter in my inbox over the last >> > week. Forums are for guidance. They're not a personal tutor. >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:09 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> wow, thats rude, you need to understand how to teach people and the >> >> point of forums. thanks for your help but please do not respond to any >> >> more of my questions. >> >> i have been learning cf for 2 years and just getting into model glue >> >> and i have never had anyone make such a patronizing immature response >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 12, 12:54 pm, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Richard, >> >> > Why don't you just give it a try? I can bet you $1 that 99% of the >> >> > developers on this list have all learned a ton from here and other >> web >> >> > resources, but at some point they had to just dive in and DO it! >> Fire >> >> > up >> >> > some of the sample applications that are out there and tweak and >> test, >> >> > let >> >> > it break and look at the debug info. You will never achieve a deep >> >> > understanding having others tell you what the answer is, only by >> >> > figuring it >> >> > out yourself. I can tell you from experience that you will feel >> better >> >> > about learning than getting spoon fed! >> >> > >> >> > The last advice I can offer is to take some of these frameworks in >> >> > pieces. >> >> > No need to tackle AOP in coldspring right away, or some of the heavy >> >> > skull-concepts of OO programming. Pick one thing, focus on it till >> you >> >> > understand, then move forward. Many of these concepts I did not >> >> > understand >> >> > until I came to a point in application development where it was >> >> > applicable, >> >> > then it was light *OHH* and a light bulb went off. >> >> > >> >> > Hope that helps =) >> >> > >> >> > Chris Peterson >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > hi chris >> >> > >> >> > > yes that makes perfect sense thanks, sorry i just have one more >> >> > > question though: >> >> > >> >> > > in reference to your example, i understand the property name = >> target, >> >> > > and the relative path and the remote method names, i am also >> looking >> >> > > now into bean factories and sure ill be fine with that, but what is >> >> > > the purpose of the serviceName and value = RemoteUserService - and >> how >> >> > > is this used as in my mind i need to work out the difference >> between >> >> > > that and the bean id >> >> > >> >> > > also at what point does the proxy object get created, is it a >> >> > > temporary object that is only created when the application starts >> >> > >> >> > > i really appreciate your help on this chris >> >> > >> >> > > richard >> >> > >> >> > > On Sep 12, 11:07 am, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > > > Lets back up 1 step. Normally Ajax would make requests to either >> >> > > > html or >> >> > > > cfc's in order to get bits of data. Many service-tier objects >> >> > > > return >> >> > > this >> >> > > > type of data, so by creating a 'proxy' object (which sits in the >> web >> >> > > > root >> >> > > > and is directly accessible from the internet, you are providing a >> >> > > > way for >> >> > > > the web to reach *past* your event's, directly into your service >> >> > > > tier, to >> >> > > > get at those atomic functions with their data returns. jsmx is >> >> > > > client >> >> > > side, >> >> > > > so when making a request to your proxied userService object, in >> my >> >> > > example >> >> > > > you would point jsmx at >> >> > > > /ajax/remoteUserService.cfc?method=doesUserExist >> >> > >> >> > > > Does that make sense? All the proxy for is to *proxy* requests >> past >> >> > > > model-glue's event structure to your underlying architecture. >> >> > >> >> > > > Chris Peterson >> >> > >> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:22 AM, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > Hi chris >> >> > >> >> > > > > how would you call the methods in the remote proxy object from >> the >> >> > > > > client? when using jsmx we usually call cfc's by stating a path >> to >> >> > > > > it >> >> > > > > on the server and the stating what function to call inside that >> >> > > > > cfc >> >> > >> >> > > > > thanks for your help >> >> > >> >> > > > > On Sep 11, 3:16 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > excellent, thanks for your help chris. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > Chris Peterson wrote: >> >> > > > > > > exactly right. You define which methods you want proxied >> >> > > > > > > here, and >> >> > > > > > > coldspring will physically create the proxy .cfc file that >> you >> >> > > > > > > will >> >> > > > > make >> >> > > > > > > requests too, and will only implement the methods you >> define >> >> > > > > > > to >> >> > > make >> >> > > > > > > available. >> >> > > > > > > Chris >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM, cs01rsw < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > thanks chris, >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > this is understandable, except why is it that you are >> >> > > > > > > > passing in >> >> > > the >> >> > > > > > > > paramaters into that remoteUserService bean. do they >> state >> >> > > > > > > > which >> >> > > > > > > > methods etc... can be used from the userService bean - so >> >> > > > > > > > you are >> >> > > > > > > > saying that the remote proxy object can only use the >> methods >> >> > > > > > > > and >> >> > > > > > > > paramters that you specify here? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > do i have this right? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > thanks for your help chris >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 1:35 pm, cs01rsw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > Hi >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > we want to use jsmx in our software and just want to >> know >> >> > > > > > > > > if >> >> > > you >> >> > > > > guys >> >> > > > > > > > > would do it in the following way: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > jsmx must call a function in a cfc whereby that >> function >> >> > > > > > > > > would >> >> > > also >> >> > > > > > > > > send back a message to the client after it has finished >> >> > > processing. >> >> > > > > so >> >> > > > > > > > > we was thinking that when we need to call a cfc >> function >> >> > > through >> >> > > > > jsmx >> >> > > > > > > > > then we would call a function directly in the >> controller >> >> > > > > > > > > which >> >> > > > > would >> >> > > > > > > > > use the beans, service, dao, and gw in order to >> complete >> >> > > > > > > > > its >> >> > > task >> >> > > > > and >> >> > > > > > > > > then pass a message back to the client. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > this method completely bypasses the event handlers as >> it >> >> > > > > > > > > is our >> >> > > > > > > > > understanding that event handlers only listen to the >> url >> >> > > > > > > > > when >> >> > > the >> >> > > > > page >> >> > > > > > > > > is refreshed - and of course jsmx is an ajax call that >> >> > > therefore >> >> > > > > > > > > doesnt refresh the page or use the url >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > does this sound right or would there be a better way? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > thanks >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > richard >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > -- >> >> > > > > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont >> tell >> >> > > > > > > me how >> >> > > to >> >> > > > > do >> >> > > > > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> >> > >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me >> how >> >> > > > to do >> >> > > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how >> to >> >> > do >> >> > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Drew >> Blog: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/ >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew >> >> >> > > > -- > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "model-glue" group. 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