Matt wrote:

> It's all about Motown really isn't it? I know Chess is MY fave label, 
> though
> Motown is undoubtedly the most influential label in history(?!). 

So what?!
Chess is a better label - much more suited to a mod's taste....
Who cares which was more influential - that's not what anyone here cares 
about...!

> > > The reason most Northern Soul is rare is because it's shite in
> > > comparison to the more popular and common tracks.
> > 
> Nah, that's like saying you'd never listen to any Motown again because 
> it
> didn't sale as well as Oasis or Blur.

Not quite the same thing....
(though I understand your point - notice Andy wisely used the term 'most 
Northern Soul' as opposed to ALL of it!)

> Oh, and the fact that most record
> companies would rather promote a white artists output over a negro 
> anyday.

But isn't some of the rarer stuff by white artists?
Like that 'Bok to Bach' tune (or whatever it's called) I heard down 
Vincent Van GoGo - that I read's a bunch of white guys funded by a 
priest!?

>Just because a record is rare lends no question to its quality. I
> have to agree that a lot of rare stuff is quite frankly not worth the 
> brass
> it was recorded with

Of course not! That works two ways - Andy argued they'll play rare stuff 
over more available stuff just cos it's rare.
But being rare doesn't mean it's good!!! So there!
I mean, me, and I imagine I speak for Andy too - I'll go for whatever - 
as long as it's good - you know? quality music.
I couldn't care less who recorded it, and how much it costs to buy on 
vinyl.
If it's good it's good - and I'll  like it!

> Don't despair Paul. There's a bloke I know on the Northern scene, who 
> swears
> that northern is 100mph, black and 60's and shouldn't be anything less. 
> I
> have to agree with him to a certain degree, but I much fancy the 
> midtempo
> stuff that southerners in the early 70's thought they were too cool to
> listen to.

Well it sounds innacurate from what I can tell. I mean I already 
mentioned the white guys - and you just mentioned the non-uptempo tracks 
that still get classed as northern - and as to 60s... see below...

Northern is definitley a 60's music thing though it's SCENE being
> a 70's inception.

Yeah I know. But I thought a fair bit of the stuff was recorded in the 
early 70s.
Wasn't it?! (can't think of an example..... YOU're the expert!)

> You mean unlike Indie music which covers anything from indie-label indie 
> to
> actual big record releases and welsh bands to crap 90's British 
> pop......

No I don't mean that silly! I think that's a stupid term too!
What are you trying to say anyway?? Trying to fob me off with the old 
'don't dig northern soul must be a stupid indie kid' thing??!

>       >What do all these have in common?
> They all have an element of music that few since have mananged to 
> include,
> that is SOUL. Oh no, he's gettig on his soul horse again. But seriously,
> it's the common emotion of soul that links al these genres

Well *MY* point is that a lot of the stuff ain't got no bloody soul!
Poppy-sounding, soul-less!
Deep soul - Chess - some Motown - there I'll agree to the 'emotion' 
thing............ but not that crummy 'rare' white pop that gets 
played.....

> for going to a wedding, northern working class penguins

You what?!

>       >See ya all d'ahn 'a mousetrap, yeah?
> 
> Without a doubt!
>            Matt......

Bonus!

(You'll be the sweaty geezer doing back flips in a brown Adams suit will 
you?)

Paul ;)

PS. Ever ventured into the beat basement???
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