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Besides, I don't even have a NNTP server in my network, and don't much
feel like having to go find a public one just so I can receive the
Vircom Mail.

Jim Barstow 
Sr. Network Engineer
Diversified Solutions and Services, Inc.
22645 Canal Road, Suite B
Orange Beach, AL 36561
251.980.8968


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:22 PM
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Subject: [Modus] Value of NNTP over mailing lists


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I like NNTP, but to play devil's advocate...

> 1) NNTP servers allow you to simply click on the server in Outlook
Express
> and it tells you if you have new messages or not. You can follow the
> threads easily. They are available whenever you want to look at them.
> 2) Threading makes the organization of ideas easier and has a tendency
to
> keep people on the subject at hand

You can group by a conversation in Outlook (and I assume other e-mail
clients). It's not 100% accurate, but it's as reliable as your average
news reader.

> 3) Messages are POSTED immediately

Same as e-mail, though far less reliable than mail. NNTP takes the
broadcast approach to distribution.

> 4) If you happen to lose your computer information, you can still go
back 
> to the News server and get the info, unlike email (I got this one many

> times on the VOPMail list: 'hey anyone got a summary of this mailing
> list')

I don't know about you, but we don't maintain anything historic on our
news server. That would require a ridiculous amount of hard drive space.

> 5) you don't have to worry if your outbound mail server is working
alright
> to have your message reach the list.... oh yea, this is a Vircom
forum,
> scratch that one.

No, you have to worry about your news server. And let me tell you, we
care a lot more if our mail server is down than our news server.

> 6) You don't get 200 messages a day in your mailbox that you feel you
have
> to scan to be aware of some crisis on the road.

Uh, rules? I get about 1000 messages a day. That's not difficult at all
to manage with rules. I send each list or account to its own folder. I
scan those folders once or twice a day and mark everything as read. I
went through about 2000 messages this morning (didn't check my e-mail
yesterday) in 20 minutes.

> The old OReilly WebBoard (www.webboard.com) would allow you to have
both,
> email lists, NNTP server and a web interface. You could choose your
own
> options in your profile. This product has been taken over by another
> company (Akiva) with similar pricing as Vircom, maybe they can work
out a 
> swap. (I have a license for that too but can't afford the $3K upgrade
for 
> it either - I'm doing something wrong I think!). The folks at
WindowsWare > use an older version here:
> http://webboard.winbatch.com/wbisadll/wbpx.isa/~winware/guests
> or here via NNTP news://webboard.winbatch.com (you need to signup via
the
> web to create an account and then put your logon information into the 
> Outlook News account info).

Several other lists that I'm on manage to coordinate mail, news and web
very well. That, in my mind, is the best solution. However, I'm just
fine with e-mail myself if the alternative is a web only solution.

-ben


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