Thank you Nathan and Guillermo.

It seems it's hard for the others to realize that the code is what's important, and I feel like no matter what we do or say, it will never be good enough for some. I am certain this topic is long from dead, and i will have to address 'when are the forums coming back' at least 25 more times in the next 6 months. Oh well, such is life...

- Tom

On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Nathan White wrote:


Wake up people! Its evolution. The forum was too accessible, way too many script kiddies asking for help when they had no proper foundation in javascript removing precious resources from mootools. Tom posted earlier how he likes the direction of the site and how it caters to developers. Let's respect that.

If its so bad look at the other frameworks. Jquery and Prototype use google groups.

Yes we all get email but there are ways to manage it. I love having the discussions this way, I am more on top of what is going on with less effort. The only thing I could possibly see down the road is having multiple mail lists.



On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Jeremy B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
" the elite
don't care about the people.

And seriously, a happyface at the end of an email doesn't hide the
elitist attitude the spews from the mootools crew. All hail mootools
they hath spoken. (sorry for sandbagging all the nice ones)" ...

this is just stupid bullshit at this point ... elite ... elitist...

come on ...

:)
Jeremy

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Guillermo Rauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Solutions to your problem:
- If you get too much correspondence: Abridged / Digest subscription type of Google Groups - If you don't like what Google Groups looks like: Nabble (forums- like interface to a mailing list)
- If you want a full-fledged bulletin board: Mooforum

Enough has been said on this topic. Let's move on

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, tombmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Valerio,

I'd just like to maybe inject this one little thought. What happens if
we don't subscribe to the mailing list and come to the actual groups
webpage to find help or new information. That is the advantage of a
forum and the pain a lot of people are facing when coming here for the
first time. It took me a while to think about joining, but after a
while I stopped the email being sent to me. I get enough email, as I'm
sure everyone else on the internet can attest to.

That is why when I continue to ask about the state of things and I get
answers like just setup a filter I wonder if you guys really
understand peoples issues.

If anyone out there wants to take the mootools code and make a
commercial product out of it, so that I can pay for better support
than mootools provides, please do so. I know a lot of people who
would. At this point mootools seems as viable as wall street. Sure its
got a solid foundation, but take a look at what happens when the elite
don't care about the people.

And seriously, a happyface at the end of an email doesn't hide the
elitist attitude the spews from the mootools crew. All hail mootools
they hath spoken. (sorry for sandbagging all the nice ones)



--
Guillermo Rauch
http://devthought.com



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