David and MOPO I think that trying to find sources can be misleading..
heres why.. Ill explain how the movie Poster distribution in reprint
and original used to work
Various dealers like myself would get connections from people that
worked in the business, or
had mass amounts of posters.. these poster connections could come from
about any plave concievable.
PRINTERS in europe saw a great opportunity as Lawas on copyright are
easy avoided.. they would send a person on a plane and open shop
wholsaleing out of all kinds of places.. so when attys tryed to trace
them they are gone.. Its been this way since 70s... also the original
stuff comes from studio insiders.
and people that work at printers and NSS and studios,,
People like Greg Eggbert were the speculators that would buy massive
quanties on a hunch and like stock traders hope that they would age like
wine.. I was one of those thats why i had 100,000 posters
My deal was that each month I had to buy whatever was left on shelves..
so i got good bad and ugly posters.. I know a guy that is still buying
videos as he thinks he will get rich some day...
I disagree on new titles.. and so i became selective as storage space
and getting to them are tough.
well on the reprints many dealers stockpile those too as they go out of
print and a good title sells
to general public.. I always like the reprints because i never liked
leaving a person with a passion for film in the cold because they
couldnt afford a original. However, I ve always told the buyer if i
doubted its authenticity or if it was a reprint. Fact is ive seen
countless dealers sell usually at live auction portal posters and the
like for big bux.. also these cast signed posters.. I had a friend want
one.. I told him i suspected it was a fraud yet he still paid 125.00 for
a cast signed UNtouchables ! because people
want to touch stardust.... much of the Business is about facade and
illusions..And if you look at media
the train wrecks are what people enjoy... not seeing Bambi eat oats....
they want Paris Hilton, and dysfunctional people like Murderers, and
sex crazies and people out of control and spiraling..
I think because it makes thier own lives seem normal or tame in
comparisson.. take a look at the biggest headlines and it was train
wrecked lives...
My point in all this is.. that many dealers bought up clusters of titles
some reprint some original. and that
many dealers trade for titles the other has to expand thier inventory
.Many times i would have 1000 of a title and then trade out to get
things i needed. In my case my entire inventory is a mixture of
everything related to motion pictures from the equipment to artifacts,
to books , stills, posters, you name it.. I even have stamps and stock
from movie theatres ... because when i started there was only places like
Cinemabilia in NYC, Ohlinger, Eddie Brandts , and a few more that had
shops.. so I made it with a Hollywood decor and mixed all the
mainstream liek portal and toys and cinema collectables like robots and
star wars stuff along with Dw Griffith.. and projectors... I though it
was a good fit.... and thats also why i stared making memorabilai
products as it all seems relative.... when we close off customers by
saying we only carry original posters we are limted in the scope. and
exclude otherwise passionate interested people because of theier
Financial means.. Thats why I would sell a 5-10 poster reprint... Plus
from a marketing standpoint there are many more people with 10.00 out
there then 10 K :) thats why is called mass market and why the days of
a salon type poster shop has been tough as its hard to pay clerks, rent,
inventory and make a buck these days. It can be done... and I know how
to do it... but not sure i want to...
because i already have been doing it since 1977... thats 30 years.
ago... I was 20 when started damn time flys! and now my customers
and dealer friends are retireing or croaking... and my memorys and
experiance seem to be worth 10 cents and a cup of cold coffee these days!
hahaha well I think my train is coming....
David Kusumoto wrote:
** Thanks to everyone who replied -- publicly and privately -- to my
earlier post about this. I'm especially grateful that David Lieberman
sourced and identified the seller by name. In the years I've been on
this list -- beyond the DePrenda and Hernandez and other scammers
singled out -- it's still a rare thing to see people stand behind
their assertions without fear of being sued. It's like watching a car
wreck with some joining in and others staying on the sidelines, all
w/varying points of view, some who dare to share while others choose
to keep to themselves (sometimes wisely).
** It reinforces why "little MoPo" is still my Internet discussion
list of choice. We've all had our battles over the years -- with bad
buyers and bad sellers and list members behaving badly (myself
included) -- toward each other -- but if only 3 discussion threads a
year surface which haven't been previously covered -- it's worth
staying on board. However, I don't mind re-hashing old issues like
restrikes and repros because newbies to this list -- often don't get
the respect they deserve -- or sometimes I sense they feel a little
intimidated by the older voices who strike back with force.
** And BTW, for those who remember, I still believe J.R., who was
infamous for his daily-multiple contrarian posts -- will someday be
back. He won't announce it. He'll just show up.
----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Strange Manhattan Style B Bridge "rolled" 1-sheet
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:09:49 EDT
it is a restrike, probably from the early to mid 80's.
the guy selling them, greg egbert knows it. He told me once he was
going to take his remaining stock of them and fold them because he is
having trouble se lling them.
they are virtually impossible to tell from originals because of only
one color ink, black.
David Lieberman
CineMasterpieces.com
602 309 0500
----Original Message Follows----
From: David Kusumoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: David Kusumoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Strange Manhattan Style B Bridge "rolled" 1-sheet
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:31:38 -0700
** This may be old news to everyone else (I'm always in a cave, buried
under piles of work) -- but the following eBay auction caught my
attention:
http://tinyurl.com/ywbhhs
** I'd like to know what your opinions might be about the possibility
of this poster being "added" to the list of titles that have been
reproduced but sold as vintage theatrical originals. I have collected
the Style B Manhattan bridge in all formats for nearly 30 years. I
have style B bridge inserts and half-sheets that are rolled -- and
their authenticity has never been questioned.
** But I've never seen a rolled 1979 style B Bridge 27x41 one-sheet of
"Manhattan." I have purchased 26x39 and 27x40 rolled reproductions
and hung them in my offices throughout my career. But I've never come
across a 27x41 ROLLED.
** Note the lack of NSS information in the image for this auction
though the seller states this is a NSS poster. I asked the seller to
identify the serial number in the bottom right corner for verification
and he says it's there.
** Do ONE-SHEETS of this title with the NSS numbers "790072" exist in
ROLLED condition? This film was hardly a box-office blockbuster and
is more appropriately considered a cult favorite. I'd HATE the idea
of this title being added to the list of suspicious 27x41 restrikes
being sold as rolled originals.
-koose in San Diego.
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