I must jump into this conversation. I have a problem with some of the things that were said on this topic.
First off Tom's post. I don't think that David Lieberman either said, or implied that Greg Egbert was the "single source" of the posters in question. You, on the other hand, are saying, if I understand you correctly, that there are many fakes, many fakers, that some dealers handle both fakes and authentics, some tell you which are fake, some don't, and its all so complicated ......that there's really no point even persuing it. Just recently, when we were discussing the Minty White inserts you said: "what about simply traceing what dealers made the purported IInsert reprints and during what years??" Even though we are now discussing another poster, one aspect still remains the same. An item that is possibly fraudulent, is being passed off as an original. Dave Lieberman was courageous enough to report merely one "alleged offender". I think that is a first step in achieving exactly what you suggested, but now you're saying : " I think that trying to find sources can be misleading.." Are you not contradicting yourself? Secondly, Rick Ryan's says in his post: "To tell you the truth, I'm not a big fan of people who fink on, rat out.....other people" My question to Rick is this: if you know someone is cheating collectors by selling repros and passing them off as originals, and you go and make their name public, does that make you a "fink" or a "rat"? Don't you think that if one cares about the hobby, such action on his part would actually be helpful and commedable? I can understand that some people may be privy to information that may incriminate others, but are reluctant to come forward for a veriety of reasons. They know that innocent people are getting burned by the unscroupulous ones all the time, but choose to be silent for the sake of "self preservation". I can understand that. But when someone finally comes forward and blows the whistle, do we call him a "rat" and a "fink"? Finally, I just want to go on record saying that I DO NOT KNOW MR. EGBERT, never dealt with him, and never heard anything about him, good or bad. Therefore I do neither support or reject Lieberman's assertion. I simply listen, and with time, will arrive at my own conclusions. I met and dealt with Tom Martin, bought posters and lobby cards from Lieberman and Rick Ryan, and have nothing but good things to say about all three, as people and as dealers. (So don't you go busting my ass now :-) ) Zeev ---- Original Message ----- From: Tom Martin To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Strange Manhattan Style B Bridge "rolled" 1-sheet Maybe he does .. im not defending that the posters are real..... or how he conducts himself. I m just trying to claiify that the reprints went to many sources not Just one person ur Greg,, Kusmotos statement was as if you had found the single sourge the posters originated from If you can do that you probably could find Osam Bin Laden... so get real.. However remember some of the dealers that have originals also did re-stickes ( reproductionc) and also carry posters from others that were repros.. some were good - like the ones from Texas. and also Micael Savageau Of Po-flake ( illinois) who did great titles.. ( lost his investment on it) yep Adam Fishman of NYC did MPR posters and last i heard Marty bought them.. i could have bought many of these lots and did.. I bought two pallets of artiricordi of Italy.... Ira Roberts of Beverly hills.. and many many more... however I didnt print them.... I jsu bought remainders many of the legit poster dealers sold one sheets as they got the rights,,, even Musicland with there connections Got One stop posters of Montery Calif to shrink wrap supposed 1 sheets that even had a sticker ( suncoast was my customer who is owned by same goody- aka Musicland- and owne -oncue// ) so i know alittel about the mass market Greg sells to Hollywood shops and dealers and does internet.. he was a advertiser in Movie collectors world and has sold los of posters.. yes many dealers will not tell the customers the deal... as far as finding the source I dis agree the source for a pile but the fact is those postesr have been sold by 100s if not 1000s of people that have assumed they had the original. as you stated on Mopeo you couldndt tell the differance,, so you are saying Greg is the source?? maybe of some and if he admists it to you whats that mean??? If he wants to run his business that way thats his choice.. But to state hes the single source for those manhattens is in my opinion incorrect as I bought some from England , Italy and Germany... sorry not end of story// you found one dealer.. that has some reprints . and im not defending Greg as I havent spoke to him in afew years. But fact is he was one of the largest buyers of posters of volume.. and bul lots before you make concrete statements such as " end of story " and saying one dealer is the source of all reprints of a title wouldnt it be prudent to know the facts? no cigar David go back to start.. I have some of my Hollywood Dream factory® 1988 fully illistrated catalogs that depict many of the posters in question Ill send anyone for 10.00 postpaid while they last...a collectable itself postpaid. then you can see what i mean and it was 1988 when many of the repros were fresh paypal accepted. 419-662-5584 or mail pobox 5861 Toledo, Ohio 43613 David Lieberman wrote: egbert knows they are not real. he told me. end of story. David A. 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