With all due respect to your acknowledged prior experience in the movie business, your reply isn't entirely correct.

Not only was Sony willing to license its Betamax technology as early as 1974 (before the public had even heard of VHS), Akio Morita (Sony's co-founder and CEO) was personally leading their efforts to license Beta to none other than Matsushita/Panasonic and JVC. They weren't aware of JVC's nascent rival VHS program at this point, nor of their campaign to put together their own video format alliance of companies beginning around the summer of 1975. When Sony realized what was going on they tried to get MITI to persuade JVC to drop VHS and license Betamax (with Sony paying for VHS's development costs in compensation) but JVC refused. Sony was able to license Zenith in early 1977, before JVC added RCA to the VHS camp. This might not seem very significant now, but people with long memories will recall how big Zenith and RCA were in the North American TV business 30 years ago. So, your argument that Sony wouldn't license Beta at the beginning is completely untrue.

I don't know what Sony or JVC charged to license their respective formats, but my memory is that the prices at retail were roughly similar. Just to check I looked out a copy of Video magazine (March 1987 to be exact) and the cheapest VHS I could find was a Magnavox VR9512 for $269 vs. a Sanyo VHR500 for $279, hardly the "much higher" cost you state. In fact Sanyo's Beta VCRs were consistently the cheapest machines, or close to it, of either camp until the Korean VHS models long after VHS had won out over Beta. Looking throughout the rest of the magazine, I came across VHS and Betamax VCRs at all price levels, topping out at $800 for the highest end models from Sony and Panasonic.

Regarding copy protection, I think you are confusing Copyguard (a very early system which messed with the video synch track strength) with Macrovision. Macrovision puts five squares in the vertical interval bar of the video image. Those five squares do two things. First they come on at full brightness, tricking the recording VCR's automatic video gain circuit into thinking that the picture is "too bright" and to "turn it down", thus you end up with a VERY dark image. Then after 30 seconds or so of that, the Macrovision signal takes those 5 squares and starts flashing them on/off/on/off/on/off for another 30 seconds or so and then repeats. This tricks the AGC circuit into constantly and quickly turning the video level up and down and up and down, resulting in the alternating light/dark video. The theory here is that ONE of these two evils will prevent a useable copy being made. With VHS, the AGC circuit is before the recording and the playback is without any form of video control. This is what Macrovision was based around. This is why Betamax could never use Macrovision, for their AGC circuits were placed AFTER the playback circuit. It was nothing to do with Betamax being a higher quality format (which it was), but purely because the designers happened to put the AGC circuit in a different location than where the VHS designers chose.

I know you have deep, inside knowledge of the studios and their fears, but history does not back up your claims. Personally, I don't remember any difference in the price between VHS and Beta prerecorded cassettes and sure enough a quick glance through my trusty March 1987 Video shows not a single VHS title costing any less or more than the same Beta title. Typical examples for that month were "Big Trouble in Little China" from CBS/Fox ($79.98 for Beta or VHS), "Flight of the Navigator" from Disney ($79.95 for Beta or VHS) and "The Abbott and Costello Show" Volumes 1-2 from Fox ($19.95 each for Beta or VHS). I could go on and on as there were a lot of titles released that month on VHS, Beta, 8mm (yes, 8mm) and LD, but in every case the title's cost was exactly the same for both VHS and Beta.

Lastly, Betacam (what I believe you really meant to when you mentioned "Beta" which is the same as Betamax) had no relation to Betamax other than using the same sized tape width and cassette shell. Betacam's true parent was U-Matic, with which it shared a great many more similarities than it ever did to Betamax. At 30 minutes per cassette, Betacam was used almost entirely in electronic new gathering and was never intended to be used by consumers, nor ever marketed to them. It had nothing to do with the studio's wishes - everybody knew that the public would have absolutely no use for a 30-minute format no matter how good the quality.

I could go on, but I suspect I've already lost almost everybody to boredom by now, and besides this is a movie poster list, not a history of home video technology list.

Colin (who never represented any studios during this period but has a better memory and a big stack of Video magazines)

On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Craig Miller wrote:

It wasn't that Sony wouldn't license the technology. They wouldn't, at first, but then they made it expensive, so few others were willing to pay
for the privilege of making the machines.  It kept the cost of Betamax
format machines high; much higher than for VHS equipment.

Licensing of the technology was but one reason Betamax failed. In some
ways a more important factor is that Betamax was a superior recording
format. That superiority was a problem for the studios. Worried about
piracy, commercial video tape producers used "Copyguard" to prevent
tapes from being duplicated. This process, in essence, recorded a very bright light in the spaces between "frames" (there aren't actually frames on
video tape the way we think of them on film but there were "effective
frames", to more or less match the original). VHS, being an inferior format,
was completely flummoxed by this area of bright light.  VHS machines
were unable to deal with it and it overbalanced the images that you wanted
to see (the images from the movie).  It made for an almost unwatchable
viewing experience.  Betamax, on the other hand, was quite capable of
recording those bright lights and not interfering with the main image. So
studios aggressively supported VHS and worked to get rid of Betamax as
a format.  They more heavily produced VHS copies, gave preferential
pricing on VHS, etc.

It was the combination of expensive equipment (because Sony wouldn't
license out the technology) and the studios supporting the other format that
doomed Betamax.  (It should also be noted that Beta, the commercial
format used by TV crews continued to be used for many, many years.  It
was a variant of Betamax and because it was superior -- it kept the color components separate, for example, for better balancing and mixing -- the studios and networks wanted it. They just didn't want the public to have it.)

Craig.
Who represented several studios during this period.



At 12:46 PM 3/1/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote:
Exactly, Doug, and that's why they allow licensing of the format unlike the proprietary ownership they held with the Betamax format. No one made Betamax but Sony. VHS was inferior to Betamax but available for any manufacturer to make.

Ipods from Apple are a glaring exception...for every rule, there is an exception...or two.

Patrick

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