It seems some of us are not listening.

 

Jim Gresham said the case WAS NOT dismissed, just taken out. For now. Why
are all the "legal experts" already trying to rationalize his legal
innocence.

 

Adrian, Is the forger of fake dollar bills innocent because he just created
them? He may claim he thought they were props for a movie?  And what about
the crook who used the fake money? How's he to know they were fakes? Or so
he claims.

 

Zeev

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [MOPO] James Gresham VS. Jaime Mendez Lawsuit DISMISSED!

 

I think the point is if the fakes were produced that is one thing, it is
when they are sold for a profit without description as fake that is another.
If Jaimie sold them without describing them as reproductions then he is in
breech of the law, if he was contracted to produce them for a third party
then he is not in breech of the law. If he takes a wage or service cost for
materials and labour etc. then he is in the clear. It is the person that
sold them for a profit and described them as original without restoration
then that person surely is to blame.

If I had a copy of Turners the Haywain or Da Vinci's Mona Lisa and sold it
as original the talented artist that created the item did it on commission
and took his fee, when the item is in my hand then what I do with it is not
his concern. Under the eyes of the law he is not in breech of his contract
to fulfill a clients needs. 

However, morally I think we all know that to produce such items and not mark
them as reproductions is perhaps the question here and that such a motive is
with doubt. I am sure that the fake Lobby Cards that were "restored" must
have een in such a quantity as to raise suspicion. Any person with an ounce
of morals and scruples would certainly made the community aware that there
are items out there now hat are good reproductions on the right material. If
that had been the case then this whole case would never have occured. 

In the end, like most of you I have followed this closely, and I feel that
those who are dishonest enough to cheat a man out of an astronomical sum in
such a fashion deserves the full might of what the majesty of the law can
serve sentence to.

Adrian

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Franc <fdav...@verizon.net>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:03
Subject: Re: [MOPO] James Gresham VS. Jaime Mendez Lawsuit DISMISSED!

Gee, why did I predict this one? The fact that he produced the fakes is






not enough under the law to convict him. FRANC













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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
<mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu?> ] On Behalf Of Andy






Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:13 AM






To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU






Subject: Re: [MOPO] James Gresham VS. Jaime Mendez Lawsuit DISMISSED!




















Was Michael Jackson ever guilty? Most said yes even after his court






shananagans were dismissed. Doesn't change the fact he is the king of






pop.













The law is an ass, always has been, always will be. My sister is now a






lawyer and she even thinks it's crazy. 













I have always had alot of time for Jamie, it's been dismissed so I guess






we should leave it at that and move on. I don't know every detail of






this case so am not going to label or comment.













Do you know now that in the UK, you can't carry a carving knife around






your own home as it's seen as a dangerous weapon? You can't even shovel






snow from the walkway incase someone slips. Slips on less snow than was






there before??? Crazy!!!













Anyway, I'll get back in my cage, could go on all day.













Andy  













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On 2010-01-12 11:49:48 +0000 James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>






wrote:













> 






> The thing is, Jamie publicly *confessed* to making the fakes and






> provided the prosecution with a list of the items he created. Whether 






> his cooperation with the prosecution now gets him removed from the 






> lawsuit or some other considerations doesn't change the fact that --






by 






> his own admission -- he did the deed.






> 






> 













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