I am glad I am as old as I am.... or words to that effect. I concur with Kirby on this subject. I have dealt with both these guys and found them to be both more than fine to deal with. Time to let it go.
Phil -----Original Message----- From: Dale Dilts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 01:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] waiting for a public apology from rick ryan? I probably shouldn't hold my breath full disclosure....an interesting thing. The actual paper test results onthe Italian Job Printers's Proof came back saying something to the effect of"inconclusive", paper may be from the 1980's"...........wtf...Am I the only one that needs a forensic break down of the paper timelinehere?It can be determined that a rolled Thing poster from 82' is fake, but youcannot determine that a 69' Italian job is 100% date authentic.I am starting to think the sniff and rub test is better than the wack apiece of paper off and date testing.I am trying to love the paper forensics, but it just is not feeling rightyet and there is not enough information out there for the folks that arebuying sub thousands of dollars or paper out there and maybe that is theonly target audience.-----Original Message-----From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DavidLiebermanSent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:44 PMTo: [email protected]: [MOPO] waiting for a public apology from rick ryan? I probablyshouldn't hold my breath As requested by rixposterz rick ryan, we sent 4 of our ROLLED never folded1960's-1970's one sheets to Todd Spoor at MP Grading for authentication. He said that if we did this, and that if Todd authenticated them, that hewould publicly apologize for accusing us of selling "questionable" rolledone sheets from the late 60's and 70's. We agreed to humor him, so we sent some in to be authenticated. We asked rick SEVERAL TIMES publicly here on mopo which posters of ours thathe thought were "questionable".....as we would have gladly sent in any thathe requested. HE NEVER RESPONDED. He would not specify which of our posters he thought were questionable. Why?I have no idea. We even asked all of mopo if anyone else thought any of our posters werequestionable.......and no one responded......so the only one person whothinks some may be questionable......is rick......and again.....he won'teven specify which ones! The ones we sent were: The Italian Job 1969 2 color ROLLED printer's proofSecret of Santa Vittoria 1969 ROLLED 1shFantastic Plastic Machine 1969 ROLLED 1sh(these 3 came from the same source, a "find" from a former studio executivewe had a few years ago, a hoard of rolled one sheets from 1968-1972 Star Wars ROLLED 1sh first printing 77/21-0 All 4 came back with an MP Grading Certificate of Authenticity. So, any time now rick.....any time. Why do I get the feeling that it will be some sort of half ass apology? full disclosure....an interesting thing. The actual paper test results onthe Italian Job Printers's Proof came back saying something to the effect of"inconclusive", paper may be from the 1980's"...........which is reallystrange. After discussing it with Todd we both pretty much agreed that justby looking at the poster and its age, and the fact that it has an NSS stampon the back, and the fact that it from the same "find" where every posterthis guy had was from 1968-1972, and that no other proof like this one hasever surfaced....that it is authentic. p.s. Todd, thanks.....I'll pay you for the paper tests asap. DaveDavid A. LiebermanCineMasterpieces.com | Vintage OriginalMovie Posters15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 | Scottsdale, AZ 85260602 309 0500 | Our Facebook Page |Office/Gallery Open By Appt. Only.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___________________________________________________________________How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [email protected] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
