Rick is right on target.
In a message dated 1/7/2012 9:18:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Hi, Rodney,
If you check the IMDB for "Midnight", Bogart is listed eighth in the
credits. I'm not saying the seller was deceiving buyers in any way. Someone
remarked that the auction started at only $9.99. But I just had an auction
for an original 1939 "Roaring Twenties" lobby card that started at $19.99
and ended up selling for almost $500. If this "original" Call It Murder
3-Sheet were to sell for $500 or $700 or more, whether the seller was guilty
or not of any infraction whatsoever, someone out there would have paid 3, 4,
5 or even 10 times the value of the piece. I think it's the seller's
reonsibility to be competent in discerning what is an "original" poster or
lobby
card and what is not an original poster or lobby card. If Bogart is listed
eighth in the credits for "Midnight" (a film with a completely different
title than "Call It Murder")--that along with the fact that the title is
different should throw up a flag that this 3-Sheet is from a later year than
1934. If the seller is not aware of this type of situation occurring where
re-release posters are concerned, then I think they should check with Bruce
or some other knowledgeable dealer who can help them in the process of
selling their posters. There's too much at stake in a situation like this.
An original 1934 Bogart 3-Sheet would probably sell for thousands of
dollars. Conversely, late 40's reissue would sell for a couple hundred at
best.
Rick
In a message dated 1/7/2012 2:17:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
There are plenty of non-experts out there - so when they auction a poster
with incomplete or incorrect information, it's up to us - the so-called
experts - to see through their errors and snag a bargain. By your disparaging
tone, I take it that you're not interested in this particular poster. But
if it was one you were after, and got it despite it being innocently
misrepresented, I doubt you'd be sounding off like this. Having read their
full
description of the circumstances of the sale, I have no reason to think
they're anything other than genuine. And incidentally, IMDb merely states, on
the 'Midnight' listing, that it was 'also known as' Call it Murder - with no
specific information (on the main page) as to when it was given that
secondary title. Time to give these guys a break, methinks...
Rodney
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Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:03:49 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue...
To: [email protected]
While I agree with you the seller is ALSO starting the poster at
$9.99..TOTALLY FAIR!
If it were high priced he'd be duping the public but at such a low price I
think
you;'re overreacting in this case.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <[email protected]_
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:
Hi, Everyone,
Here is an example of a seller who hasn't taken the time to research
the poster he (or she) is selling and describes it as being an "original 1934
3-Sheet" from "Call It Murder" starring Humphrey Bogart. I informed the
seller that it was in fact a late 40's reissue 3-Sheet from a 1934 film
originally titled "Midnight".
_http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1934-Call-Murder-3-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Hump
hrey-Bogart-Sidney-Fox-/220926616222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337040a2
9e_
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1934-Call-Murder-3-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Humphrey-Bogart-Sidney-Fox-/220926616222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370
40a29e)
This is the response I received:
Hi, We are not poster experts- Just estate liquidators trying to do the
best we can. Not to insinuate that you aren't an expert, because you may be,
but we have received incorrect information through bidders/potential buyers
in messages just like this in an effort by them to drive down prices at
auction, so we will not revise our listing; it is based on the print date
shown on the poster. However, we will post this message and let others make
their own judgement. Thanks, hisgoods4u
I think a seller isn't necessarily expected to be an expert, but is
expected to research the item they're selling to the best of their ability.
All
it takes is checking the title "Call It Murder" on Google or IMDB and it
becomes quite clear that this isn't an original 1934 3-Sheet. I don't
believe the buyer should have the sole responsibility of researching the item
they're bidding on. It's the seller's responsibility to provide accurate
information as to whether a poster is "original" or not.
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