He ended the auction. I guess enough of us sent him messages regarding this that he pulled it. Now we'll see if he relists it with correct info.
Rick ________________________________ From: Claude Litton <twoni...@aol.com> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, January 8, 2012 8:38:24 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... Rick is right on target. In a message dated 1/7/2012 9:18:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rixpost...@aol.com writes: Hi, Rodney, > > If you check the IMDB for "Midnight", Bogart is listed eighth in the >credits. >I'm not saying the seller was deceiving buyers in any way. Someone remarked >that the auction started at only $9.99. But I just had an auction for an >original 1939 "Roaring Twenties" lobby card that started at $19.99 and ended >up >selling for almost $500. If this "original" Call It Murder 3-Sheet were to >sell >for $500 or $700 or more, whether the seller was guilty or not of any >infraction >whatsoever, someone out there would have paid 3, 4, 5 or even 10 times the >value >of the piece. I think it's the seller's reonsibility to be competent in >discerning what is an "original" poster or lobby card and what isnot an >original >poster or lobby card. If Bogart is listed eighth in the credits for "Midnight" >(a film with a completely different title than "Call It Murder")--that along >with the fact that the title is different should throw up a flag that this >3-Sheet is from a later year than 1934. If the seller is not aware of this >type >of situation occurring where re-release posters are concerned, then I think >they >should check with Bruce or some other knowledgeable dealer who can help them >in >the process of selling their posters. There's too much at stake in a >situation >like this. An original 1934 Bogart 3-Sheet would probably sell for thousands >of >dollars. Conversely, late 40's reissue would sell for a couple hundred at >best. > Rick > > >In a message dated 1/7/2012 2:17:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >film_butc...@hotmail.com writes: >There are plenty of non-experts out there - so when they auction a poster with >incomplete or incorrect information, it's up to us - the so-called experts - >to >see through their errors and snag a bargain. By your disparaging tone, I take >it >that you're not interested in this particular poster. But if it was one you >were >after, and got it despite it being innocently misrepresented, I doubt you'd be >sounding off like this. Having read their full description of the >circumstances >of the sale, I have no reason to think they're anything other than genuine. >And >incidentally, IMDb merely states, on the 'Midnight' listing, that it was 'also >known as' Call it Murder - with no specific information (on the main page) as >to when it was given that secondary title. Time to give these guys a break, >methinks... >> >>Rodney >> >> >> ________________________________ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:03:49 -0800 >>From: wise1...@aol.com >>Subject: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... >>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> >> >>While I agree with you the seller is ALSO starting the poster at >>$9.99..TOTALLY >>FAIR! >>If it were high priced he'd be duping the public but at such a low price I >think >>you;'re overreacting in this case. >> >> >>On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <rixpost...@aol.com> wrote: >> >>Hi, Everyone, >>> >>> Here is an example of a seller who hasn't taken the time to research the >>>poster he (or she) is selling and describes it as being an "original 1934 >>>3-Sheet" from "Call It Murder" starring Humphrey Bogart. I informed the >>>seller >>>that it was in fact a late 40's reissue 3-Sheet from a 1934 film originally >>>titled "Midnight". >>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1934-Call-Murder-3-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Humphrey-Bogart-Sidney-Fox-/220926616222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337040a29e >>> >>>This is the response I received: >>> >>>Hi, We are not poster experts- Just estate liquidators trying to do the best >>>we >>>can. Not to insinuate that you aren't an expert, because you may be, but we >>>have >>>received incorrect information through bidders/potential buyers in messages >>>just >>>like this in an effort by them to drive down prices at auction, so we will >>>not >>>revise our listing; it is based on the print date shown on the poster. >>>However, >>>we will post this message and let others make their own judgement. Thanks, >>>hisgoods4u >>> >>> I think a seller isn't necessarily expected to be an expert, >>>but is expected to >>>research the item they're selling to the best of their ability. All it >>>takes is >>>checking the title "Call It Murder" on Google or IMDB and it becomes quite >>>clear >>>that this isn't an original 1934 3-Sheet. I don't believe the buyer should >>>have >>>the sole responsibility of researching the item they're bidding on. 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