yeah rub it in why don't you. I thought it a pretty nice typical poster, but could not bid of course as i am not from the US. Wim Op 8 jan 2012, om 20:21 heeft Kirby McDaniel het volgende geschreven:
> The standard that Rick upholds is correct for a professional. However, I > think that Rich is in the real > world here. If you went out and asked the average Joe on the street to name > 10 Bogart movies, how many > do you think could do that? -- much less know that this film poster is a > reissue of a film with a different name. > > Having said this, MovieArt was the top bidder when this auction closed, > because this poster can > sell for $150. I sort of look at it as Bogart Generic Ganster Poster Large. > > Ha! > > > Kirby McDaniel > MovieArt Original Film Posters > P.O. Box 4419 > Austin TX 78765-4419 > 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net > mobile 512 589 5112 > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote: > >> Rick, in actuality, the seller is a pretty good guy, but they aren't movie >> poster people >> they sell from an ebay store or some such right around the corner from >> someone who is a well known collector and by chance a member of this here >> MoPo club >> >> >> >> At 07:08 AM 1/8/2012, Richard Auras wrote: >>> He ended the auction. I guess enough of us sent him messages regarding >>> this that he pulled it. Now we'll see if he relists it with correct info. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> From: Claude Litton <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, January 8, 2012 8:38:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... >>> >>> Rick is right on target. >>> >>> In a message dated 1/7/2012 9:18:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> Hi, Rodney, >>> >>> If you check the IMDB for "Midnight", Bogart is listed eighth in the >>> credits. I'm not saying the seller was deceiving buyers in any way. >>> Someone remarked that the auction started at only $9.99. But I just had an >>> auction for an original 1939 "Roaring Twenties" lobby card that started at >>> $19.99 and ended up selling for almost $500. If this "original" Call It >>> Murder 3-Sheet were to sell for $500 or $700 or more, whether the seller >>> was guilty or not of any infraction whatsoever, someone out there would >>> have paid 3, 4, 5 or even 10 times the value of the piece. I think it's the >>> seller's reonsibility to be competent in discerning what is an "original" >>> poster or lobby card and what is not an original poster or lobby card. If >>> Bogart is listed eighth in the credits for "Midnight" (a film with a >>> completely different title than "Call It Murder")--that along with the fact >>> that the title is different should throw up a flag that this 3-Sheet is >>> from a later year than 1934. If the seller is not aware of this type of >>> situation occurring where re-release posters are concerned, then I think >>> they should check with Bruce or some other knowledgeable dealer who can >>> help them in the process of selling their posters. There's too much at >>> stake in a situation like this. An original 1934 Bogart 3-Sheet would >>> probably sell for thousands of dollars. Conversely, late 40's reissue >>> would sell for a couple hundred at best. >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 1/7/2012 2:17:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> There are plenty of non-experts out there - so when they auction a poster >>> with incomplete or incorrect information, it's up to us - the so-called >>> experts - to see through their errors and snag a bargain. By your >>> disparaging tone, I take it that you're not interested in this particular >>> poster. But if it was one you were after, and got it despite it being >>> innocently misrepresented, I doubt you'd be sounding off like this. Having >>> read their full description of the circumstances of the sale, I have no >>> reason to think they're anything other than genuine. And incidentally, IMDb >>> merely states, on the 'Midnight' listing, that it was 'also known as' Call >>> it Murder - with no specific information (on the main page) as to when it >>> was given that secondary title. Time to give these guys a break, methinks... >>> >>> Rodney >>> >>> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:03:49 -0800 >>> From: [email protected] >>> Subject: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> While I agree with you the seller is ALSO starting the poster at >>> $9.99..TOTALLY FAIR! >>> If it were high priced he'd be duping the public but at such a low price I >>> think >>> you;'re overreacting in this case. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>> Here is an example of a seller who hasn't taken the time to research the >>> poster he (or she) is selling and describes it as being an "original 1934 >>> 3-Sheet" from "Call It Murder" starring Humphrey Bogart. I informed the >>> seller that it was in fact a late 40's reissue 3-Sheet from a 1934 film >>> originally titled "Midnight". >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1934-Call-Murder-3-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Humphrey-Bogart-Sidney-Fox-/220926616222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337040a29e >>> >>> This is the response I received: >>> >>> Hi, We are not poster experts- Just estate liquidators trying to do the >>> best we can. Not to insinuate that you aren't an expert, because you may >>> be, but we have received incorrect information through bidders/potential >>> buyers in messages just like this in an effort by them to drive down prices >>> at auction, so we will not revise our listing; it is based on the print >>> date shown on the poster. However, we will post this message and let others >>> make their own judgement. Thanks, hisgoods4u >>> >>> I think a seller isn't necessarily expected to be an expert, but is >>> expected to research the item they're selling to the best of their ability. >>> All it takes is checking the title "Call It Murder" on Google or IMDB and >>> it becomes quite clear that this isn't an original 1934 3-Sheet. I don't >>> believe the buyer should have the sole responsibility of researching the >>> item they're bidding on. 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