The standard that Rick upholds is correct for a professional. However, I think that Rich is in the real world here. If you went out and asked the average Joe on the street to name 10 Bogart movies, how many do you think could do that? -- much less know that this film poster is a reissue of a film with a different name.
Having said this, MovieArt was the top bidder when this auction closed, because this poster can sell for $150. I sort of look at it as Bogart Generic Ganster Poster Large. Ha! Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote: > Rick, in actuality, the seller is a pretty good guy, but they aren't movie > poster people > they sell from an ebay store or some such right around the corner from > someone who is a well known collector and by chance a member of this here > MoPo club > > > > At 07:08 AM 1/8/2012, Richard Auras wrote: >> He ended the auction. I guess enough of us sent him messages regarding this >> that he pulled it. Now we'll see if he relists it with correct info. >> >> Rick >> >> >> From: Claude Litton <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, January 8, 2012 8:38:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... >> >> Rick is right on target. >> >> In a message dated 1/7/2012 9:18:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> Hi, Rodney, >> >> If you check the IMDB for "Midnight", Bogart is listed eighth in the >> credits. I'm not saying the seller was deceiving buyers in any way. Someone >> remarked that the auction started at only $9.99. But I just had an auction >> for an original 1939 "Roaring Twenties" lobby card that started at $19.99 >> and ended up selling for almost $500. If this "original" Call It Murder >> 3-Sheet were to sell for $500 or $700 or more, whether the seller was guilty >> or not of any infraction whatsoever, someone out there would have paid 3, 4, >> 5 or even 10 times the value of the piece. I think it's the seller's >> reonsibility to be competent in discerning what is an "original" poster or >> lobby card and what is not an original poster or lobby card. If Bogart is >> listed eighth in the credits for "Midnight" (a film with a completely >> different title than "Call It Murder")--that along with the fact that the >> title is different should throw up a flag that this 3-Sheet is from a later >> year than 1934. If the seller is not aware of this type of situation >> occurring where re-release posters are concerned, then I think they should >> check with Bruce or some other knowledgeable dealer who can help them in the >> process of selling their posters. There's too much at stake in a situation >> like this. An original 1934 Bogart 3-Sheet would probably sell for >> thousands of dollars. Conversely, late 40's reissue would sell for a couple >> hundred at best. >> Rick >> >> >> In a message dated 1/7/2012 2:17:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> There are plenty of non-experts out there - so when they auction a poster >> with incomplete or incorrect information, it's up to us - the so-called >> experts - to see through their errors and snag a bargain. By your >> disparaging tone, I take it that you're not interested in this particular >> poster. But if it was one you were after, and got it despite it being >> innocently misrepresented, I doubt you'd be sounding off like this. Having >> read their full description of the circumstances of the sale, I have no >> reason to think they're anything other than genuine. And incidentally, IMDb >> merely states, on the 'Midnight' listing, that it was 'also known as' Call >> it Murder - with no specific information (on the main page) as to when it >> was given that secondary title. Time to give these guys a break, methinks... >> >> Rodney >> >> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:03:49 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: [MOPO] CAll It Murder reissue... >> To: [email protected] >> >> While I agree with you the seller is ALSO starting the poster at >> $9.99..TOTALLY FAIR! >> If it were high priced he'd be duping the public but at such a low price I >> think >> you;'re overreacting in this case. >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, Everyone, >> >> Here is an example of a seller who hasn't taken the time to research the >> poster he (or she) is selling and describes it as being an "original 1934 >> 3-Sheet" from "Call It Murder" starring Humphrey Bogart. I informed the >> seller that it was in fact a late 40's reissue 3-Sheet from a 1934 film >> originally titled "Midnight". >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1934-Call-Murder-3-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Humphrey-Bogart-Sidney-Fox-/220926616222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337040a29e >> >> This is the response I received: >> >> Hi, We are not poster experts- Just estate liquidators trying to do the best >> we can. Not to insinuate that you aren't an expert, because you may be, but >> we have received incorrect information through bidders/potential buyers in >> messages just like this in an effort by them to drive down prices at >> auction, so we will not revise our listing; it is based on the print date >> shown on the poster. However, we will post this message and let others make >> their own judgement. Thanks, hisgoods4u >> >> I think a seller isn't necessarily expected to be an expert, but is >> expected to research the item they're selling to the best of their ability. >> All it takes is checking the title "Call It Murder" on Google or IMDB and it >> becomes quite clear that this isn't an original 1934 3-Sheet. I don't >> believe the buyer should have the sole responsibility of researching the >> item they're bidding on. 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