Filip, It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I think you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the artwork being exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US artwork—I see that a lot with Hirschfeld’s work, which I guess is a form of flattery (and indolence.)
I’ll see an “A Day at the Races” one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art and just the Spanish copy—it is usually the “Espana” posters, not something from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones—and some variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn’t color before, etc. The “Phantom of the Paradise” is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are “experts” on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial posters that are odd sizes like 33x33” (see filmartgallery seller on eBay) and there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the “PG Guidance” on it—I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a bird on a mixing board climbing and crowing. As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite—especially to a customer. It isn’t “nonsense” as their are validities to both statements and a difference in codification shouldn’t elicit consternation. I’ve seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of a “What? No Beer!” Belgian poster (sold by eMovieposter) that has the same US stone-litho art of Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante that are one the US three-sheet (Style “B”) and I’ve never seen the US three sheet, so sometimes if you want the US art, you need to look globally. That is why I like to pursue Benito’s yellowish orange website as he has examples of posters with US art that are US period, or examples of the aforementioned posters. He has a three sheet to “The Wizard of Oz” (Style “A”, not the elusive—but extant—Style “B”) I would just take his “nonsense” advice, say thank you, and purchase elsewhere—from one who doesn’t live in a ivory palace or act like a phallus. -d… > On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:27 AM, filip de volder <[email protected]> wrote: > > i had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a > posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up : > > Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US > 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo. > > - swanarchives > > > hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom details > on the poster > filip > > - runbuffy > > I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service > distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the > PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one: > https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg > <https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg> > The Canadian version does not. > > - swanarchives > > hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s a > lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , > that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 > sheets for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of the paradise > is an american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster was not made in > canada > thanks, filip > > - runbuffy > > No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the > geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were > manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine > where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some > posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese > movie posters." A poster with Danish language intended for use in Denmark > would be called a "Danish movie poster," regardless where it was printed. > Good luck with your auction, though. > > > - swanarchives > > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
