I dunno ... I've always liked 1sh, meself
ad On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Principal Archivist < archiv...@swanarchives.org> wrote: > Well, having been likened (by Dan) to a phallus, now I feel compelled, > after a long absence from this list, to return to defend myself. > > > > Dan (in particular)- to be clear, I was not the seller (nor the buyer) > here; Filip was selling the poster, and had listed an International > one-sheet as a US one-sheet. I had started this conversation off with him > by suggesting that describing the poster as a US one-sheet was > inappropriate. While I would probably have listed it as Canadian, > "International" would have been another (even better and more accurate) > option. Regardless, I do stand by the view that it's inappropriate to list > an International one-sheet as a US one-sheet, without some indication that > it is not SIMPLY a US one-sheet. "International style," "intended for > foreign markets," "intended for Canada," or whatever.. but SOMEthing to > indicate that it wasn't the vanilla US one-sheet. > > > > What was referred to, later in my conversation with Filip, as "nonsense" > was NOT his assertion that the poster was a US one-sheet, but rather the > broader assertion that a poster made in the USA, even for a non-US market, > would always be referred to, without qualification, as a US poster: "the > poster was made in the usa, therefor is a US poster." > > > > To Philip's point, that ratings boxes sometimes don't appear on US posters > because, e.g., it's an advance poster, I would say that if a seller is > selling an advance poster, they would normally say so, wouldn’t they? > Don't collectors typically want to know if they're buying an advance, as > opposed to an international, as opposed to a dead-standard version? > > > > It's just not that simple, as the back and forth in this thread amply > demonstrates. I may have been a bit brusque in using the word "nonsense," > for which I publicly apologize to Filip, but I was put off by the "if it's > made in america, it's a US poster, simple as that" oversimplification of > the issue. At the same time, having read through this thread, I recognize > that my own take on it - that a poster is classified by the geography > where it is intended to be displayed – is also not always right. > > > > And, sure, often it IS possible to tell where posters were manufactured - > they may display union stamps, "Printed in Belgium" and the like, but just > as often it is not; and I think it's a dangerous precedent to suggest that > where a poster is printed is how it should be described - without exception > and without qualification - for collectors' purposes, since it's only a > matter of time before American studios and distributors start exporting > production of some portion of posters destined for use in the US to China > or elsewhere. Are we going to refer to those posters as Chinese? > > > > We have some real experts on this thread, and a divergence of opinion; > Tommy agrees with me that international one sheets are not referred to as > (simply) "US," while Helmut takes the view that anything printed in the US > is a US poster; and Heritage is inconsistent. So, sure, "nonsense" may > have been overstating my case, but (1) I don't think that makes me a > "phallus," and (2) I stand by the view that posters like these are best > described as "International" -- or something -- rather than, or in addition > to, "US." > > > > Maybe we could move on to whether "one-sheet" should be hyphenated or not. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.