I dunno ...

I've always liked 1sh, meself

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Principal Archivist <
archiv...@swanarchives.org> wrote:

> Well, having been likened (by Dan) to a phallus, now I feel compelled,
> after a long absence from this list, to return to defend myself.
>
>
>
> Dan (in particular)- to be clear, I was not the seller (nor the buyer)
> here; Filip was selling the poster, and had listed an International
> one-sheet as a US one-sheet.  I had started this conversation off with him
> by suggesting that describing the poster as a US one-sheet was
> inappropriate.  While I would probably have listed it as Canadian,
> "International" would have been another (even better and more accurate)
> option.  Regardless, I do stand by the view that it's inappropriate to list
> an International one-sheet as a US one-sheet, without some indication that
> it is not SIMPLY a US one-sheet.  "International style," "intended for
> foreign markets," "intended for Canada," or whatever.. but SOMEthing to
> indicate that it wasn't the vanilla US one-sheet.
>
>
>
> What was referred to, later in my conversation with Filip, as "nonsense"
> was NOT his assertion that the poster was a US one-sheet, but rather the
> broader assertion that a poster made in the USA, even for a non-US market,
> would always be referred to, without qualification, as a US poster:  "the
> poster was made in the usa, therefor is a US poster."
>
>
>
> To Philip's point, that ratings boxes sometimes don't appear on US posters
> because, e.g., it's an advance poster, I would say that if a seller is
> selling an advance poster, they would normally say so, wouldn’t they?
> Don't collectors typically want to know if they're buying an advance, as
> opposed to an international, as opposed to a dead-standard version?
>
>
>
> It's just not that simple, as the back and forth in this thread amply
> demonstrates.   I may have been a bit brusque in using the word "nonsense,"
> for which I publicly apologize to Filip, but I was put off by the "if it's
> made in america, it's a US poster, simple as that" oversimplification of
> the issue.   At the same time, having read through this thread, I recognize
> that my own take on it  - that a poster is classified by the geography
> where it is intended to be displayed – is also not always right.
>
>
>
> And, sure, often it IS possible to tell where posters were manufactured -
> they may display union stamps,  "Printed in Belgium" and the like, but just
> as often it is not; and  I think it's a dangerous precedent to suggest that
> where a poster is printed is how it should be described - without exception
> and without qualification - for collectors' purposes, since it's only a
> matter of time before American studios and distributors start exporting
> production of some portion of posters destined for use in the US to China
> or elsewhere.  Are we going to refer to those posters as Chinese?
>
>
>
> We have some real experts on this thread, and a divergence of opinion;
> Tommy agrees with me that international one sheets are not referred to as
> (simply) "US," while Helmut takes the view that anything printed in the US
> is a US poster; and Heritage is inconsistent.  So, sure, "nonsense" may
> have been overstating my case, but (1) I don't think that makes me a
> "phallus," and (2) I stand by the view that posters like these are best
> described as "International" -- or something -- rather than, or in addition
> to, "US."
>
>
>
> Maybe we could move on to whether "one-sheet" should be hyphenated or not.
>
>
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