There is no real official authority for all of this, but there is a small nuance to consider. The country in question is Canada and from an exhibition and marketing standpoint US film producers consider Canada as part of the United States Domestic market. That is how BO receipts and profit participation is calculated (except for the Quebec/French speaking part of the country). While International campaigns for a big Hollywood film may roll out differently in other English speaking countries like Britain or Australia, the publicity materials are almost always identical in the US and Canada, even if the wide release dates are staggered (though they usually aren't).
Ratings for US films are done in the US by the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America). While the MPAA is rather well known, it is generally not so well known that they are just the political lobbying arm of the AMPTP (The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers). This is just a business practice/PR move that the studios put in place to do away with local and regional censorship boards that once existed in many US states and cities. While ratings are almost always on a US poster, it is only a requirement if you want MPAA certification. The fact that a poster doesn't have a rating box on it, doesn't mean that the poster was not intended for domestic US consumption. It is very common for advance posters to be made without ratings boxes (even if an MPAA ratings box will be desired for the release version). Often times, release posters (with contractual credits and release artwork) are prepared for premieres prior to a final MPAA rating but before the printing of a large general release run of posters. Those posters often say something like "This film is not yet rated", however that disclaimer is a more recent practice and is not to be found on all advances. In times past there have certainly been plenty of posters made in the US (with artwork identical to the eventual release poster) with no ratings reference box at all. Most of those were (and are) sent to US theatres for premieres, benefits and festivals. This advertises the film with all of the appropriate star and director credits even before the final cut/answer print is completed and available to be sent to the MPAA for review. Those posters were definitely intended for domestic use and in many cases they may be absolutely identical to posters identified as "the international" version. From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of filip de volder Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ? Hi Daniel and all , the thing is that i've had quite a bit of "international "US 1 sheets (and 3 sheets) and in general the blue rubberstamp on the back sais so (sometimes it's printed on the front of the poster in a bottomcorner too that it's "int'l" ) , this one doesn't .... but sure a poster printed in the usa that is being send out worldwide to say 30 different countries makes it a US poster , if say 30 were used in belgium those would become belgian posters , 15 of the same poster used in switzerland would become swiss posters ??? also the guy sais , and who knows how he got that idea " in most cases, it is impossible to determine where a poster was manufactured. " _____ From: Daniel Edward Kinske <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:15 PM To: filip de volder Cc: MoPo Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ? Filip, It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I think you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the artwork being exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US artwork-I see that a lot with Hirschfeld's work, which I guess is a form of flattery (and indolence.) I'll see an "A Day at the Races" one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art and just the Spanish copy-it is usually the "Espana" posters, not something from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones-and some variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn't color before, etc. The "Phantom of the Paradise" is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are "experts" on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial posters that are odd sizes like 33x33" (see filmartgallery seller on eBay) and there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the "PG Guidance" on it-I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a bird on a mixing board climbing and crowing. As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite-especially to a customer. It isn't "nonsense" as their are validities to both statements and a difference in codification shouldn't elicit consternation. I've seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of a "What? No Beer!" Belgian poster (sold by eMovieposter) that has the same US stone-litho art of Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante that are one the US three-sheet (Style "B") and I've never seen the US three sheet, so sometimes if you want the US art, you need to look globally. That is why I like to pursue Benito's yellowish orange website as he has examples of posters with US art that are US period, or examples of the aforementioned posters. He has a three sheet to "The Wizard of Oz" (Style "A", not the elusive-but extant-Style "B") I would just take his "nonsense" advice, say thank you, and purchase elsewhere-from one who doesn't live in a ivory palace or act like a phallus. -d. On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:27 AM, filip de volder <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: i had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up : Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo. - swanarchives hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom details on the poster filip - runbuffy I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one: https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg The Canadian version does not. - swanarchives hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s a lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 sheets for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of the paradise is an american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster was not made in canada thanks, filip - runbuffy No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese movie posters." A poster with Danish language intended for use in Denmark would be called a "Danish movie poster," regardless where it was printed. Good luck with your auction, though. - swanarchives _____ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1> &A=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
