Yawn...
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 20:34, Principal Archivist <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Well, having been likened (by Dan) to a phallus, now I feel compelled, after
> a long absence from this list, to return to defend myself.
>
> Dan (in particular)- to be clear, I was not the seller (nor the buyer) here;
> Filip was selling the poster, and had listed an International one-sheet as a
> US one-sheet. I had started this conversation off with him by suggesting
> that describing the poster as a US one-sheet was inappropriate. While I
> would probably have listed it as Canadian, "International" would have been
> another (even better and more accurate) option. Regardless, I do stand by
> the view that it's inappropriate to list an International one-sheet as a US
> one-sheet, without some indication that it is not SIMPLY a US one-sheet.
> "International style," "intended for foreign markets," "intended for Canada,"
> or whatever.. but SOMEthing to indicate that it wasn't the vanilla US
> one-sheet.
>
> What was referred to, later in my conversation with Filip, as "nonsense" was
> NOT his assertion that the poster was a US one-sheet, but rather the broader
> assertion that a poster made in the USA, even for a non-US market, would
> always be referred to, without qualification, as a US poster: "the poster
> was made in the usa, therefor is a US poster."
>
> To Philip's point, that ratings boxes sometimes don't appear on US posters
> because, e.g., it's an advance poster, I would say that if a seller is
> selling an advance poster, they would normally say so, wouldn’t they? Don't
> collectors typically want to know if they're buying an advance, as opposed to
> an international, as opposed to a dead-standard version?
>
> It's just not that simple, as the back and forth in this thread amply
> demonstrates. I may have been a bit brusque in using the word "nonsense,"
> for which I publicly apologize to Filip, but I was put off by the "if it's
> made in america, it's a US poster, simple as that" oversimplification of the
> issue. At the same time, having read through this thread, I recognize that
> my own take on it - that a poster is classified by the geography where it is
> intended to be displayed – is also not always right.
>
> And, sure, often it IS possible to tell where posters were manufactured -
> they may display union stamps, "Printed in Belgium" and the like, but just
> as often it is not; and I think it's a dangerous precedent to suggest that
> where a poster is printed is how it should be described - without exception
> and without qualification - for collectors' purposes, since it's only a
> matter of time before American studios and distributors start exporting
> production of some portion of posters destined for use in the US to China or
> elsewhere. Are we going to refer to those posters as Chinese?
>
> We have some real experts on this thread, and a divergence of opinion; Tommy
> agrees with me that international one sheets are not referred to as (simply)
> "US," while Helmut takes the view that anything printed in the US is a US
> poster; and Heritage is inconsistent. So, sure, "nonsense" may have been
> overstating my case, but (1) I don't think that makes me a "phallus," and (2)
> I stand by the view that posters like these are best described as
> "International" -- or something -- rather than, or in addition to, "US."
>
> Maybe we could move on to whether "one-sheet" should be hyphenated or not.
>
>
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