I think this discussion, particularly Bruce's contribution, raises an interesting question about the purpose of films. Are they simply to entertain, or can some be more challenging art? I haven't seen *Jeanne Dielman etc*., but from what I read it is supposed to be boring and gruelling even, as it reflects the eponymous protagonist's life. Certainly there may be a 'woke' element to the critics' choice of best film ever, but that does not necessarily detract from its worth as an artistic endeavour.
Tommy On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 11:58, Larry Brooks < [email protected]> wrote: > I really, really, *Really *hated THE ENGLISH PATIENT. Not just me, but > every single guy I knew literally detested this film; it bored the pants > off us - we found it incredibly tedious, vapid, cloying, and interminable - > we'd sit there waiting for this thing to finally end. But every girl we > knew Loved it, so go figure. For us it was 100% ungodly movie torture. > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#m_-7921766426014957388_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56 PM Greg Douglass <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Oh, God, Bruce! Now I HAVE to watch it! The gauntlet has been thrown down. > I sat through "Monster-a-Go-Go" on a bet. Now this? > Greg Douglass > > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 8:20 PM > *From:* "Bruce Hershenson" <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] What was the most grueling high rated movie you > have watched? > In case you don't know, Greg (and others), " Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du > commerce, 1080 Bruxelles" was picked as the BEST MOVIE of all time! > > This is the ultimate case of The Emperor's New Clothes. > > See > https://collider.com/jeanne-dielman-sight-and-sound-top-movie-of-all-time/# > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 10:05 PM Greg Douglass <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You win, Bruce. First of all, I've never heard of this cinematic felony to > which you refer but have now been officially forewarned. Thank you for > saving 3 hours & 22 minutes of my life. > However, I'd still rather watch "Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom" while > eating a big bowl of chocolate pudding than be forced to sit through the > first 30 minutes of "Chicago". > Greg Douglass > Coos Bay, OR > > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:38 PM > *From:* "Bruce Hershenson" <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] What was the most grueling high rated movie you > have watched? > I think I have you all topped! In the 1970s I was a major international > film fan, and I traveled far and wide to see films that would never play > where I lived (no video yet, of course). An example is that in 1981 or so I > traveled to Los Angeles for a day and a night to see the restored 1927 > Napoleon with a full orchestra (conducted by Coppola's father) and it was > one of the best experiences of my life. > > So in 1983 a theater in Philadephia announced that they would show the > uncut 3 hour 22 minute Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles > I had read about this movie, and it sounded terrible, but some critics had > highly praised it, so I convinced a fellow film buff to go with me. > > "Grueling" is a good word to describe watching, but a better one would be > "excrutiating". But my friend kept saying, "Surely it will get more > interesting", so we stayed to the end, but it never did. If I was told I > had 3 hours and 22 minutes left to live, I would choose to re-watch this > movie, because then it would feel like years had gone by! > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 3:49 PM Rick Payne < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > "Grueling" might not be the word for the film itself, but the experience > certainly was. > > It's 1968; I'm 13 and living in central Kansas. Forry Ackerman's Famous > Monsters magazine has fostered my infatuation with the great Lon Chaney but > I've never seen one of his films. Lo, the heavens open and I learn that a > local college will be running "Hunchback of Notre Dame." My dad finally > agrees to drop me off at the college for the 8 pm showing and I'm to call > him when it's over. > > Unfortunately, they are showing an 8mm print on 400 foot reels using a > single projector. After every reel, they turn on the lights and rewind > before showing the next one. Naturally, old splices periodically fail and > the film breaks or burns multiple times. Each incident requires immediate > repair; lights on; another delay. The Hunchback will take about 3 1/2 > hours to run. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the finish. > > You see, I didn't realize that "Hunchback" was to be the second feature of > the night ... after "Birth of a Nation." Dad showed up around 1 in the > morning, mad as a hornet that I hadn't called. Well, the film wasn't > over! 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