On Behalf Of Ham Priday
Truthfully, Ian, I didn't catch the drift of what you were saying. Ron had stated his belief that the methodology of quantum mechanics is somehow unique in a way that complements Pirsig's "pragmatism". I must admit my ignorance of both. I don't see anything "pragmatic" about the MoQ and, as far as I know, quantum physics is a legitimate branch of the physical sciences which follows the methods I quoted from the Univ. of Rochester's website; briefly, 1) Observation of the phenomenon, 2) Development.of an hypothesis, 3) Testing the predictability of the hypothesis, and 4) Obtaining corroborative experimental evidence. [Ron] I was simply saying that scientists and mathmaticians were exploring new methods of creating models that would more accurately predict quantum phenomena. Topos theory is one of these methods being explored whereas formally a scientist would isolate an object of study to test hypotheses in a true/ false method which yields Jos's "weird" results and odd observable phenomena, the ideas now being pursued are to observe/model objects in their relative system. when Pirsig talks about the method for approaching working on a motorcycle he is talking about system theory and how things are relational in a cycle. >From a mechanical perspective he talks a great deal about mechanics and the process of diagnosing a problem in a system. He talks about how preconceptions will allow you to overlook possible causes and how several overlooked possibilities will amount to a huge failure in the system. After all this he states that the cycle you work on is the cycle of yourself. Now how much more practicle do you want to get? I mean it is called "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" not "the purpose of man in the universe" sometimes reffered to as a bible. Pirsig tells you it is all in YOUR hands, get a wrench, find what quality means to YOU. This idea appeals to me. but there is something to be said for "belief" which I'm going to post as soon as I get to it. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
