Yes Platt, I would agree too ... a tantalising parallel.

That's why some of these more enlightened or imaginative views of
physics (unconfirmed or not) are attractive to MoQ'ers I believe -
those who see the MoQ view as substantially correct - valuable,
useful, pragmatic - because of its dynamic core.

(I see Ham is ignoring my detailed comment about the dogmatic process
by which science confirms what is "true" anyway.)

Ian

On 7/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > The theory that all is varying forms of inter-related energy works just
> > fine for me. It sure works better
> > than God , Essent, Dq, prime motivator or any other human convention.
>
> But wouldn't you admit, Ron, that if energy is defined as "the power to 
> change"
> that DQ would qualify as energy? As for evidence of this energy,
> Pirsig cites, among other examples, that of the brujo. "It was the moral
> force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni." (Lila, 9) IMO, the "moral force" 
> is
> energy of a creative kind, bring about changes "for the better." Seems to me
> the evidence for such an energy is abundant in our evolutionary history.
>
> Platt
>
>
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