Quoting MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Platt, > > > > > > A free enterprise might promote something > > > dynamic, but it does not help youngster develop > > > high values. When Chris asked Phædrus what he > > > should be when he grew up, he was told honest, > > > not an entrepreneur. [Marsha] > >I disagree. In a free market a dishonest entrenpreneur won't last long. "You > >can fool some of people some of the time . . ." etc. Anyway, who do you think > >makes motorcycles? And paints? And brushes? And canvases? > Free markets are like unicorns, they don't > exist. Compared to socialist/communist countries, free markets do exist. > A dishonest entrepreneur can last a very > long time. Not in a competitive free market. > And dishonest people in corporations > have done big-time damage to tens-of-thousands of > people. Nothing compared to what governments have done to damage people. > I would prefer my motorcycles, paints, > brushes and canvases be made by artists. Plenty of "artists" in corporations who make motorcycles, paints, brushes and canvases. I get my art supplies from "Cheap Joe's," a quintessential capitalist entrepreneur. > > > Your point-of-view is so > > > entangled with economics that you don't seem to > > > be able to see the forest for the trees. > > > >How so? > > Economics is like a religion of money. You were > indoctrinated when a young boy, and that > point-of-view has been reinforced ever since. If > that is not true, give me some alternative > suggestions to what might hold a people together and bring them contentment. To be free to exchange goods and services in a free society is the best arrangement for life and living I can imagine. What is your alternative?. > > > I think > > > self-respect, self-esteem and self-discipline > > > should taught. > > > >Self-esteem and self-respect come from achievement. > > Might self-esteem and self-respect come knowing > you have value? Or from knowing you are a part of a world that has value? Self-value comes from self-achievement. Just knowing the world has value doesn't do much for your self-esteem. > > > And if you possess those factors, > > > you will see them in others. It's time to move > > > beyond considering consumerism as the primary force in the world. > > > >I prefer consumerism as a force rather than government as a force. Don't you? > > I'm not too keen on either of those two > choices. I prefer sailing or gardening to both. Have you bought anything in order to be able to sail or to garden? If you have, I've made my point. > > > And I don't think I might be wrong. > > > >I think you might be. > > No, no. Yes, yes. Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
