Hi SA: > [Platt] > > I trust social values if used properly to control > > biological quality. But, > > I agree that today's public authority by and large > > hasn't a clue about the > > battle going on between social and biological > > values, and therefore can't > > always be trusted to do the right thing. On the need > > for education and discipline, > > I think we agree. > [SA]
> What are social values? > Here's a starting point that works well where I > work - safety. Once safety is established then > therapy nurtures the process. Safety is established > with - "NO", "Ask nicely", "Don't demand", "Say > please." Discipline has a Pavlo's (spelling?) law > approach where I work. If they don't follow the > routine with the rest of unit or swear, are physically > aggressive, steal, etc... then they are removed from > the routine. That means, no recreation room, no gym, > no free time, etc... They are confined to their > bedrooms or Time Out Areas. It is a if you do this > incorrectly and disrupt the unit, then your not part > of the unit. Then we have therapists that try to get > them to talk about their problems, and staff on the > units do the same. So, it is a discipline/therapy > dichotomy, but this is not exclusive > discipline/therapy. They work together. Its' never > one or the other. But without safety and the > necessities met (food, shelter, clothing), then the > therapy part will not take hold. Then the problem > after they leave. They may discuss problems with > dialogue more and more without reverting to yelling > and screaming about dinner (to cover up what's really > bothering them, such as a bad phone call earlier, > etc...), but then these residents go home. I'm > hearing about what's going on with some of the > residents that left this summer. One began > prostituting and smoking crack. She was doing very > terrible when she showed up where I work. Wanted to > fight to get her point across. She eventually figured > it out, that we would help her and talk with her > without hurting her. Then she left, and fell right > back into the same old mess. Without safety, then all > else will not happen. I think if we start with how do > we make people safe? Then go from there, it would be > easier to see where these troubled youth are in their > lives and how we might help them. > > So: How do we make people feel safe? > > Safety needs to be defined. I don't think safety > encompasses biological life or death situations only. > I don't safety is exclusively defined as such. I wonder: 1) Is there a requirement that the inmates work to provide some of their own necessities (food, shelter, clothing). and 2) is a religious or spiritual program part of the therapy, such as a 10-step program? Thanks, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
