Greetings again Ham,
What is metaphysics? RMP stated his reluctance to create a metaphysics
of quality. With that admonition he went ahead to create the MOQ. To
me the MOQ is a framework in which to explore the boundaries and holes
in my own limited knowledge. By making Quality indivisible, undefinable
and unknowable the MOQ is expansive. By demanding that it include a
primary source and purpose, I think you are promoting unnecessary
restrictions. If my mind is Swiss cheese, than possibly the holes allow
for the better, more dynamic experiences.
Any thoughts?
Marsha
{Ron]
Hello Marsha,
If I may stick my two cents in, I think Ham feels focus on the
development of the relationship
between the individual and reality is of more merit than developing
concepts about reality and
it's workings.
Although I do not think Ham has a problem with Pirsigs method, he has a
problem with his
ontological focus or lack thereof in the traditional sense.
I think Pirsig avoids it because issues of an ontological nature become
of concern regarding
discussions about possible descriptions of God. Pirsig skirts ontology
because it deals with
the study of conceptions of reality, MOQ is a conception but it's a
conception about dropping
conceptions( which Pirsig violates when he posits the conception of a
moral universe).
If anything, By positing the conception of a moral universe Pirsig
illustrates the choice
making process in all perceptual reality. "Choice making process" being
termed as description
of a static objective process mechanism rather than a subjective desire
commonly referred to that term.
In effect Pirsig utilizes radical empiricism on the molecular scale to
define moral or truth
as a matter of what exists in a relative context.
So, to address Hams assertion Pirsig describes "being" or existence in
itself as moral or "truth"
or "Being is truth" Ham says not so, being is a shade of truth but it is
all we can ever experience
of truth, "real truth" is absolute undefineable and unsenseable in it's
entirety. Pirsig says
the same of Quality.
Truth is be-ing(existing)
Conceptual truth is relative to context(cultural, social ect..ad
infinum)
Absolute universal truth is undefineable and unsenseable.
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