>      [Ron previously]
> > Absolute universal truth is undefineable and
> unsenseable.
> [SA previously]
>      Is it really universal and absolute then? 
> Defining something as undefinable and unsenseable really leaves 
> 'something' open.
 
> [Ron]
> Now this is a koan of sorts,is the unknowable absolute? it is 
> absolutly undefineable and unsenseable by our perceptions, absolutly 
> undefineable, this does leave room for infinite possibility therefore 
> it is absolutly open, consequently every definition applied to it may 
> be absolute for it is unknowable altogether.
> It is absolute in it's entirety for it encompasses everything.

[SA]
     Everything is undefinable?

[Ron]
in a matter of speaking, yes. definitions are our perceptions, not
everything itself.
dynamic quality is absolute in it's undefineability.

     [Ron]
> Even what is not. I'm describing the three realms of truth, truth of 
> being, conceptual truth, and absolute truth.
> absolute truth is not a conceptual truth,

[SA]
     Therefore would that mean absolute truth is not
absolute?  It doesn't "encompass everything."

[Ron]
conceptual truth is not absolute, it does not encompass everything.


     [Ron]
> conceptual truth is not truth of being,
> truth of being is not absolute truth.

[SA]
     Therefore, absolute truth also doesn't
"encompass" another kind of truth, the "truth of
being", correct?

     [Ron] 
The three are distinct yet aspects of
> the one, to apply one
> to another is the root of 
> confusion.

[SA]
     Huh?
[Ron]
1. truth of being
2. conceptual truth
3. absolute truth

The three are distinct yet aspects of
> the one absolute truth.
(absolute truth being a concept)
the tao that can be spoken is not the tao
the name that can be named is not the eternal
name.

 
Ron


       
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