[Khoo Hock Aun]
> It is the clinging to the false that makes the true
> so difficult to see. The real is always with you;
you
> need not wait to be what you are. Only you must not
allow
> your mind to go out of yourself in search. When you
> want something, ask yourself: do I really need it?
And if
> the answer is not, then just drop it.
> - Nisargadatta Maharaj
Yes, we are embedded in reality. We drip
reality. We are reality, and reality says today, hmmm
turkey for dinner.
[Khoo Hock Aun]
> Has it been ten years ?
> All this time spent searching
> for the holy grail of the MOQ,
> this elusive definition,
> wretched definition.
> Why wont it define itself ?
> Why wont it manifest before me ?
>
> Its really cruel of Pirsig
> to tease me of a Quality
> that lies beyond my constructs
> an undiscovered country
> so to speak beyond my intellect
> but is this not where I stand ?
> at the frontiers of my perception
> my rationality and emotions
> my humanity ?
>
> The logic follows perfectly
> if there is an inorganic
> there must be an organic
> and there must be a social
> and then an intellectual -
> the scaffolding of life
>
> the buddha said
> ehi passiko, verify
> dont take my word for it
>
> getting there requires letting go
> i know
> those that see beyond the false
> grasp the real
> and its been all words only words
> that held the meaning behind them
>
> Once I have seen what it means
> I have no more use for the words
> mine, Pirsig's nor the Buddha's..
>
> Has it been ten years ?
> Where have I been all this time ?
When I walk in the quiet what will emerge. When
I walk in the woods what will emerge. These are not
questions as much as they are somebody blowing into a
bubble wand and bubbles emerge and float in the air.
Why is it so fun to pop the bubbles before they hit
the ground? Again, this is not a question to be
answered, but fun playing and free to wander and see
what will happen.
Beautiful comment Khoo Hock Aun. I felt a clear
harmonious rhythm.
a walkabout,
SA
P.S. Do my posts come across all jumbled up to
anybody else the way Bo says it does to his? I get
those from some people every once and awhile and it
does make it difficult to read.
> On 11/17/07, Heather Perella
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > [Bo] Regrettably LILA did not follow up
> (making
> > > the 4th. level=S/O)
> > > > > but created one that we have been chasing
> for
> > > more than ten years
> > > > > without finding out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [SA previously]
> > > > Bo, I'm not part of this "we" you refer to
> above.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Bo]
> > > Well, speak out, I'm all ears/eyes. Will there
> > > finally emerge an
> > > intellectual defiition that meets the MOQ
> > > requirements? One that
> > > the intellectual patterns that Pirsig lists in
> LILA
> > > seem natural
> > > offshoots from.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Lila; Chapter 32]
> > >From the static point of view the whole escape
> into
> > Dynamic Quality seems like a death experience.
> It's a
> > movement from something to nothing. How can
> 'nothing'
> > be any different from death? Since a Dynamic
> > understanding doesn't make the static distinctions
> > necessary to answer that question, the question
> goes
> > unanswered. All the Buddha could say was, 'See for
> > yourself.'
> > When early Western investigators first read the
> > Buddhist texts they too interpreted nirvana as
> some
> > kind of suicide. There's a famous poem that goes:
> >
> > While living,
> > Be a dead man.
> > Be completely dead,
> > And then do as you please.
> > And all will be well.
> >
> > It sounds like something from a Hollywood
> horror-film
> > but it's about nirvana. The Metaphysics of Quality
> > translates it:
> >
> > While sustaining biological and social patterns
> > Kill all intellectual patterns.
> > Kill them completely
> > And then follow Dynamic Quality
> > And morality will be served.
> >
> >
> > With all the defining going on in this forum, one
> > comment I really didn't fully see before and yet I
> > went on to realize it I guess is, "See for
> yourself".
> > As to intellectual patterns, "Kill all
> intellectual
> > patterns. Kill them completely. And then follow
> > Dynamic Quality." Have you tried this Bo. What
> would
> > this exercise do to your intellect? Any guesses
> or
> > first-hand experience you would like to share.
> I've
> > shared mine.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Bo]
> > > PS
> > > Could you please extend the line length of your
> > > messages, it
> > > comes out all jumbled at my end.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know how to extend the line length.
> I
> > use yahoo mail. So, above I hit enter 5 times
> between
> > your comment and my comment, etc...
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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