Hi Joe, [Joe] > IMO we know value through a 'luminous intelligence' which manifests at the > social level, the level of proprietary awareness, consciousness. The > manifestation of this awareness is my conscience which kind of leads me into > what I perceive as right action. With this manifestation of conscience in > the social order, I conclude that even the inorganic order has 'luminous > intelligence'. I do not know if science would accept this?
Personally I reserve the use of "luminous" to describe peak experiences when DQ shines all around you . . . such as described by Pirsig in Lila: "He said, imagine that you walk down a street past, say, a car where someone has the radio on and it plays a tune you've never heard before but which is so fantastically good it just stops you in your tracks. You listen until it's done. Days later you remember exactly what that street looked like when you heard that music. You remember what was in the store window you stood in front of. You remember what the colors of the cars in the street were, where the clouds were in the sky above the buildings across the street, and it all comes back so vividly you wonder what song they were playing, and so you wait until you hear it again." (Lila, 9) I agree that atoms at the inorganic level exhibit preferences, suggesting a form of experience. But, I don't think science would agree with this tepid description much less "luminous intelligence." (Science and the MOQ disagree on a number of things, the most prominent being the existence of values as natural phenomena.) As for conscience, IMO whatever conscience you and I may have mostly results from our individual life experiences. Depending on how the four levels impacted on us as individuals, our sense of quality leading to "right action" may differ. Regards, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
