Hi Bo
Bo: Anyway, from the MOQ we see that the 4th. level's view of itself (while it was SOM) is that of objectivity rising above subjectivity. DM: Yes and hence SOM ends up suppressing subjective static quality patterns, so in this sense it does not create a S/O distinction it ends up with only the objective and becomes materialistic and unable to make any sense of value/values except as epi-phenomenon. When Pirsig suggests we replace SOM with MOQ this is to solve the problems of SOM he has discussed, some of these problems like the mind/matter distinction seems just as problematic to me if you drop the metaphysics. For me a 4th level that only contain the S/O distinction retains some of the problems of SOM. What about the dynamic/static distincition, perfectly intellectual and perfectly not captured via the S/O distinction? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
