Bo I'd suggest the MOQ intellectually overcomes SOM by proposing that we describe experience in terms of static (repeating recurring) quality patterns and dynamic (emerging/ unrepeated) quality. Does this proposal not dismiss your suggestion? Seems that simple to me.
Regards David M ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [MD] The intellectual level - once more > Hi DMB and absolutely all MOQists! > > On 18 Nov. you said (to me): > >> You think Pirsig's letter to Paul was "a masterpiece of evasion"? I >> think that's ironic and that you are unreasonable on this topic. > > I a writing frenzy I found this "old" post of yours, possibly not > meant to be replied but I can't let go this topic. As you will > remember the letter answered Paul's inquiry about the infamous > 4th level. This is the most evasive part. > > But if one studies the early books of the Bible or if one > studies the sayings of primitive tribes today, the > intellectual level is conspicuously absent. The world is > ruled by Gods who follow social and biological patterns > and nothing else. > > Wish I were ironic and unreasonable, but it's just sadly true. If > Pirsigs sees the intellectual level as absent he does know what > the intellectual level is. Doesn't he ? What is missing is SOM, > that is plain as day and I thought I finally had the intellect issue > cornered and wrote to inquire and got this reply. > > "I suspect you want to hear that what is "conspicuously > absent" is SOM, but I am not sure that SOM was absent > in early Biblical times since early social statements such > as "Beware of the crocodile!" or "Javeh will reward you", > are SOM but are not intellectual in the MOQ sense. > > He clearly saw the trap, but couldn't admit the obvious. The > crocodile warning as SOM is bad enough from the author of > ZAMM who wrote so splendidly and convincingly about SOM, but > then he makes the same strange exercise; He seemingly knows > what "intellectual in the MOQ sense" is, so why not tell us? It's > absolutely maddening. Well, I know I'm crying in the wilderness. > > Thanksgiving all the same, > > Bo > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
