> [Platt] > I take it then that you agree with the notion that man invents morals > for himself, are artificial and can be just about any old thing as opposed > to Pirsig's thesis that morals are evolutionary, natural, and built into the > fabric of the universe. In other words, you reject the central premises of > the MOQ. > > Is that correct? > > [Krimel] > This is among the most puzzling posts I have yet encountered in this forum. > I do think that morals are evolutionary, natural and built into the fabric > of the universe and I disagree with Pirsig's assessment that science claims > they are artificial and completely arbitrary. So it would seem that one of > the three of us is confused.
[Platt] Pirsig stated that the world is primarily a moral order: "Because Quality is morality. Make no mistake about it. They're identical. And if Quality is the primary reality of the world then that means morality is also the primary reality of the world. The world is primarily a moral order." (Lila, 7) So to clear up the confusion, do you agree? [Krimel] > Efforts to find a specific set of moral in nature have not faired well. [Platt] If efforts to find a specific set of morals in nature have not fared well, what makes you think morals are "natural" and "built into the fabric of the universe?" [Krimel] > Gould writes about this very well in his collections of essays. Social > Darwinism was a disastrous attempt to interpret morality writ in tooth and > claw. Yes. Reminds me of the scientific "consensus" about eugenics in the 1920s. > But if for example you are able to see how both cannibalism and burial > of the dead both serve the same morality or the same moral functions then > perhaps we are actually on the same page for a change. [Platt] Speaking of puzzling posts, how do cannibalism and burial of the dead both serve the same moral functions? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
