[Platt] Seems to work pretty well in everyday life. It always amazes me that they can land the shuttle with pinpoint accuracy. Besides, I'd say there is a 100 percent probability that apples will not fall from trees up.
[Krimel] Newtonian determinism does not work at all in everyday life. It is an illusion. But the real problem was not so much determinism per se as the belief that determinism equals prediction. We have discussed this at length several times, I am frankly at a loss to explain the persistence of this illusion. [Platt] Unpredictable responses to DQ as exemplified in the brujo story don't fit a deterministic worldview. [Krimel] I don't recall that the issue of predictability came up in the brujo discussion. But the point is the range of options available in a time of upheaval it restricted. The brujo was operating well within that range of probabilities. But please find some other example I really don't want to rehash the inappropriateness of this one. [Platt] "Chance" is no better explanation for a singular event than "miracle." [Krimel] I would say that miracle or divine will are no better explanations than "chance". Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
